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Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 05:11
by Mitoe
Cover mode is fine, but I think it's generally better not to sacrifice the damage. The two most likely scenarios are that you are being kited—in which case you need the speed—or fighting melee units—in which case most of the damage will come from hand damage and the extra hp you gain against ranged damage will be mostly negligible. Plus cover mode reduces the chances that one of your disciples will last hit a unit and convert it.
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 05:17
by deleted_user
Inst wrote:What about cover mode disciples? China has issues with having good meat shields, until Age 3, but Disciples, as pseudo-hussars, have a high HP line that's further extended once they enter cover mode. For cost, they resemble Hussars with 550 HP once put into cover mode.
It's like cover mode coyote. Is that good? No.
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 05:30
by tedere12
deleted_user wrote:Inst wrote:What about cover mode disciples? China has issues with having good meat shields, until Age 3, but Disciples, as pseudo-hussars, have a high HP line that's further extended once they enter cover mode. For cost, they resemble Hussars with 550 HP once put into cover mode.
It's like cover mode coyote. Is that good? No.
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 05:32
by deleted_user
It's not good exempting immediate niche scenarios.
Well, unless you are me and have those hotkeys mapped to mouse buttons in which my mechanics could easily exploit the ranged unit ROF but actually the hotkeys themselves lag too much for this -- Microsoft foresight patching...
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 10:13
by thomasgreen6
Mankles Disciple won the last tournament so I'm going to say no
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 14:56
by momuuu
Cover mode on disciples doesn't synergize with their ability to punch dead bodies into new disciples (disciples are basically necromancers).
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 15:13
by jesus3
Finally some real arguments @
momuuu thank you
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 04:41
by _H2O
Fast training on the battlefield units are great. Can’t just do math on that
Re: Disciples Overnerfed?
Posted: 12 Feb 2018, 06:12
by Peshmerga12
Mitoe wrote:Disciples were nerfed in an official patch a long time ago. Don't know which one, I wasn't around. Disciples are still great, but not overpowered. You should definitely be training them in fights; but definitely don't rush with them unless your name is Aizamk and you know the way.
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