Make your EP4 tiers list

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@Rikikipu these games are EP4 matches only, right?
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deleted_user wrote:@Rikikipu these games are EP4 matches only, right?

Yes
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Well I got pretty good win rate :chinese:
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Rikikipu wrote:http://eso-community.net/statistics.php

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17.7% winrate

:hmm:

Feel like these stats are inaccurate because they must be counting obs games or something, and if they are then that means that the civ stats are also completely inaccurate because I will "lose" every single game that I obs with China selected, for example.
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are those just the games on butifle or on every account hes smurfed on :hmm:
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Mitoe wrote:
Rikikipu wrote:http://eso-community.net/statistics.php

Mitoe
113 games
17.7% winrate

:hmm:

Feel like these stats are inaccurate because they must be counting obs games or something, and if they are then that means that the civ stats are also completely inaccurate because I will "lose" every single game that I obs with China selected, for example.

indeed, I took the wrong field, well spotted, and thanks a lot really. The winning percentage per player uses the same query than the civ winning rate, so most likely if one of them is inaccurate, the other one will be inaccurate, and if one of them is accurate, the other one will be accurate. It's fixed now.
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Garja wrote:Well I got pretty good win rate :chinese:

52% now that it's been fixed
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This should have been formatted. I'll just list my guess in the following way:

1. Dutch, Sioux, British.
2. Indians, Aztecs, French, Portuguese, Spanish, Germans, Ottomans.
3. Russians, Chinese, Japanese, Iroquois.
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Very interesting results indeed.
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Riki can you show stats vs certain players or personal stats? Would be cool to see them.
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Rikikipu wrote:indeed, I took the wrong field, well spotted, and thanks a lot really. The winning percentage per player uses the same query than the civ winning rate, so most likely if one of them is inaccurate, the other one will be inaccurate, and if one of them is accurate, the other one will be accurate. It's fixed now.

Yeah this looks more accurate now. Curious about how my # of games played didn't change though
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Oh hot damn, so Ottoman does have the highest win rate. Fooking nailed it bruv!
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Mitoe wrote:
Rikikipu wrote:indeed, I took the wrong field, well spotted, and thanks a lot really. The winning percentage per player uses the same query than the civ winning rate, so most likely if one of them is inaccurate, the other one will be inaccurate, and if one of them is accurate, the other one will be accurate. It's fixed now.

Yeah this looks more accurate now. Curious about how my # of games played didn't change though

The number of games was accurate because the query was still sup games on esoc patch with 2 players in the lobby, but instead of displaying the winner, I took the wrong field, and I was displaying the hoster :biggrin:
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Ah, got it. Makes more sense now :)
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Damn brit needs buff
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tedere12 wrote:Damn brit needs buff

seems like Vane was right since the begining
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One factor is that civilizations like British and French are especially popular at lower levels of skill, making them over-represented losers. Another is that a small amout of players account for a large amount of games, skewing results towards theirs which are more or less non-representative of the civilization strength.
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First bias shouldn't be a thing because players tend to play against others of the same level. Also the statement that they're more popular at lower level of skills is questionable in the first place.
Second bias might be a thing. However I don't see evidence of said players necessarily playing one civ more than others.
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Rikikipu wrote:
Mitoe wrote:
Rikikipu wrote:indeed, I took the wrong field, well spotted, and thanks a lot really. The winning percentage per player uses the same query than the civ winning rate, so most likely if one of them is inaccurate, the other one will be inaccurate, and if one of them is accurate, the other one will be accurate. It's fixed now.

Yeah this looks more accurate now. Curious about how my # of games played didn't change though

The number of games was accurate because the query was still sup games on esoc patch with 2 players in the lobby, but instead of displaying the winner, I took the wrong field, and I was displaying the hoster :biggrin:

Aizamk with 70 wins/207 games -> :hmm: nothing wrong there, let's move on
Mitoe with 17.7% winrate -> :hmm: nothing wr- WAIT A SEC. No matter how bad he says he is, didn't this guy just win a big tournament? Just in case let's double-check to make sure the issue isn't that he's played 82.3% of his games against piroshiki.

:cry:
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