ESOC Patch suggestions, comments and discussion

Hagi · Post by **Hagi** » 31 Oct 2015, 15:06

When will you release the esoc patch replays pack?
Thanks

thebritish · Post by **thebritish** » 31 Oct 2015, 15:12

adv wrote:When will you release the esoc patch replays pack?
Thanks

It is already released.

Hagi · Post by **Hagi** » 31 Oct 2015, 15:13

thebritish wrote:
adv wrote:When will you release the esoc patch replays pack?
Thanks
It is already released.

The recs pack ?

thebritish · Post by **thebritish** » 31 Oct 2015, 15:16

adv wrote:
thebritish wrote:It is already released.
The recs pack ?

Yup.

Click

Hagi · Post by **Hagi** » 31 Oct 2015, 15:20

Thanks

xhuggels · Post by **xhuggels** » 31 Oct 2015, 16:06

i was just thinkin...how on earth are you guys gonna get this patch widely recognized. Right now there are pretty much no games on ESO with this...

yemshi · Post by **yemshi** » 31 Oct 2015, 16:10

xhuggels wrote:i was just thinkin...how on earth are you guys gonna get this patch widely recognized. Right now there are pretty much no games on ESO with this...

This. You can always play Standard aswell. And the longer this goes the more people will play the FP. Wait and see. The tourney will be played on FP aswell.

zoom · Post by **zoom** » 31 Oct 2015, 17:47

First of all we are going to make sure it works as intended at which point it will be very user-friendly. Second of all we have made sure it's better than RE patch in every way to make it appealing. Third of all we have plans to promote and support the patch, including not least the tournaments.

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 31 Oct 2015, 22:22

I think we should consider balance changes that aren't optimal but appeal to the lower ranked players some more.

zoom · Post by **zoom** » 31 Oct 2015, 22:33

It it would benefit the adoption of the patch to any significant extent, I agree.

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 31 Oct 2015, 22:46

Not sure what the trick is to making the 2nd - 1st lts switch, but that's very important and we need to get more ideas from other people and those players aswell. I know the guys making the patch like in their own aoe community but they have to realize that theres more than that and that in long term this approach might make the game die faster.

deleted_user0 · Post by **deleted_user0** » 31 Oct 2015, 22:57

subzero wrote:
garja wrote:Yes, it is possible that some more RE maps will be fixed. Dont think its going to happen anytime soon tho. Id say if anything, Yucatan and Himalaya are the next candidates.
It is also possible however than new custom maps will be created and included.
I really want to see Araunacia and Ozarks too.

Andes is actually too OP, it is even more foody than GP lol.

Are you giving us for more new ESOC maps from you coming up? xDDD

lol wtf those maps are totally terribru

iNcog · Post by **iNcog** » 31 Oct 2015, 23:04

jerom wrote:Not sure what the trick is to making the 2nd - 1st lts switch, but that''s very important and we need to get more ideas from other people and those players aswell. I know the guys making the patch like in their own aoe community but they have to realize that theres more than that and that in long term this approach might make the game die faster.

What sort of changes would you propose?

What makes ~1st lt on the fence in the first place?

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 31 Oct 2015, 23:41

incog wrote:
jerom wrote:Not sure what the trick is to making the 2nd - 1st lts switch, but thats very important and we need to get more ideas from other people and those players aswell. I know the guys making the patch like in their own aoe community but they have to realize that theres more than that and that in long term this approach might make the game die faster.
What sort of changes would you propose?

What makes ~1st lt on the fence in the first place?

Im not sure, I suggest we discuss it with them.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 31 Oct 2015, 23:50

1st lt would want us to nerf japan/india which would make them unplayable at high level so no.
Then, we decided to do minimal changes but I think nerfing gendarms will make nr players and team players happy while we don't care.

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 01 Nov 2015, 00:16

We need to get the discussion started. How do you reach the 1st/2nd lts? Its really vital and I don't think we're really succeeding at it right now.

gibson · Post by **gibson** » 01 Nov 2015, 00:19

jerom wrote:We need to get the discussion started. How do you reach the 1st/2nd lts? Its really vital and I don''t think we''re really succeeding at it right now.

I don''t think it''s really possible tbh..... I mean the average 2nd lt who only plays 3x3 deccan has absolutely no reason to.

iNcog · Post by **iNcog** » 01 Nov 2015, 07:49

jerom wrote:
incog wrote:What sort of changes would you propose?

What makes ~1st lt on the fence in the first place?
Im not sure, I suggest we discuss it with them.

Problem is that the patch is a minimalist one. Were looking to stick as close to RE as possible and keep the civs quite unique.

For me, for low level players, its the snake biting its tail. Lower level players wont get the EP because other lower level players dont have the patch. Thing is, everything about the current patch is just good, especially the new maps.

[Armag] diarouga · Post by **[Armag] diarouga** » 01 Nov 2015, 08:00

To balance the lieut play we would need to nerf rush civs (like india/russia/azzy, otto's jan rush) and buff defensive civs (china, brit). That'd make the rush civs unplayable at high level and the def civs too op.
We'd also need to nerf japan because people don't know how to play against and they would be a bad civ while that's one of the hardest civ to play.

yemshi · Post by **yemshi** » 01 Nov 2015, 09:19

A completely different question: Why is Yellow River (Water one) not part of the classic ES QS pool?

zoom · Post by **zoom** » 01 Nov 2015, 11:28

IIRC it turned out it's not on RE either.

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 01 Nov 2015, 12:25

Only the dry version is in the quicksearch pool. Am I the only one who absolutely hates that map?

Method_man714 · Post by **Method_man714** » 01 Nov 2015, 12:33

bramboy wrote:Offshore support should be nerfed. It''s a big flaw to not change this card. I understand that you don''t want to change water right now, but I think we can all agree that Offshore support is a broken card.

Did someone beat you using off shore support

Mr_Bramboy · Post by **Mr_Bramboy** » 01 Nov 2015, 13:10

nepenthes714 wrote:
bramboy wrote:Offshore support should be nerfed. Its a big flaw to not change this card. I understand that you dont want to change water right now, but I think we can all agree that Offshore support is a broken card.
Did someone beat you using off shore support

Probably, I cant remember. I know Ive made jerom rage quit a few times with offshore support, though.

momuuu · Post by **momuuu** » 01 Nov 2015, 13:45

bramboy wrote:
nepenthes714 wrote:Did someone beat you using off shore support
Probably, I cant remember. I know Ive made jerom rage quit a few times with offshore support, though.

no. You made me rage by selecting a water map. I think we only played indonesia seriously once and I picked a land deck in denial of the water.

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