Jan/huss wont break double bh+musk/strel.paul wrote:if im otto i wont train abus at all. just spam hussar, and try to take control of tp. jan abus wont beat cossack strelet.subzero wrote:Russia vs otto is chanceless. The moment you realise that you cant micro with russian units, that moment you will not win even if you play like a god.
Russia vs Otto was 0-100. Im sure it is still 0-100 on FP too.
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Lol completely wrong.paul wrote:if otto insist to play age 2 its 40-60 or even 50-50.subzero wrote:Russia vs otto is chanceless. The moment you realise that you cant micro with russian units, that moment you will not win even if you play like a god.
Russia vs Otto was 0-100. Im sure it is still 0-100 on FP too.
abus kite strelet? why should russia train strelet vs abus? they can send 9 cossack with shipment, and train more coosack with boyar after that. jan has poor anticav attack, and he can also raid you a lot.
It is never, ever 50-50.
Russia may have ways to deal with Ottoman FF, but for ottomans the best way to win is Jan Abus Cav.
Lol, you mean Russia will not make strelet vs abus, so will you make musk or only cossack? Russia has to go full strelet and cossack I suppose.
Jan has poor anticav attack? bravo man. Youre applying math to prove that jan abus sux.
Normal civs have no way to deal with jan abus, and jan abus cav is impossible.
Abus kite strelet.
https://youtu.be/WAc851E6l68?t=8m51s
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diarouga wrote:Jan/huss wont break double bh+musk/strel.paul wrote:if im otto i wont train abus at all. just spam hussar, and try to take control of tp. jan abus wont beat cossack strelet.
just take control of the map and try to starve russia. russia early eco is bad, but jan abus will give him chance (they have 9+ cossack). ofc otto should ff or semiff vs russia, anyway.
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Lol man, you wont make abus which two shot russian units. Epic logic.paul wrote:if im otto i wont train abus at all. just spam hussar, and try to take control of tp. jan abus wont beat cossack strelet.subzero wrote:Russia vs otto is chanceless. The moment you realise that you cant micro with russian units, that moment you will not win even if you play like a god.
Russia vs Otto was 0-100. Im sure it is still 0-100 on FP too.
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Semi ff is best way to lose, ff is easier way to win, and jan abus and late cav is best way to win.paul wrote:just take control of the map and try to starve russia. russia early eco is bad, but jan abus will give him chance (they have 9+ cossack). ofc otto should ff or semiff vs russia, anyway.diarouga wrote:Jan/huss wont break double bh+musk/strel.
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subzero wrote:Lol completely wrong.paul wrote:if otto insist to play age 2 its 40-60 or even 50-50.
abus kite strelet? why should russia train strelet vs abus? they can send 9 cossack with shipment, and train more coosack with boyar after that. jan has poor anticav attack, and he can also raid you a lot.
It is never, ever 50-50.?
Russia may have ways to deal with Ottoman FF, but for ottomans the best way to win is Jan Abus Cav.
Lol, you mean Russia will not make strelet vs abus, so will you make musk or only cossack? Russia has to go full strelet and cossack I suppose.?
Jan has poor anticav attack? bravo man. Youre applying math to prove that jan abus sux.
Normal civs have no way to deal with jan abus, and jan abus cav is impossible.
Abus kite strelet.?
https://youtu.be/WAc851E6l68?t=8m51s
raid with 5 cossack, send crates for cossack strelet, then boyar. you can add hussar too, but it wont be easy to spam units from 3 different buildings. ff with a tower is the most safe way to beat russia.
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You dont even need to spam, even if you make 2-3 huss, 2-3 abus, 2-3 jan each time, russia will still lose.paul wrote:raid with 5 cossack, send crates for cossack strelet, then boyar. you can add hussar too, but it wont be easy to spam units from 3 different buildings. ff with a tower is the most safe way to beat russia.subzero wrote:Lol completely wrong.
It is never, ever 50-50.
Russia may have ways to deal with Ottoman FF, but for ottomans the best way to win is Jan Abus Cav.
Lol, you mean Russia will not make strelet vs abus, so will you make musk or only cossack? Russia has to go full strelet and cossack I suppose.
Jan has poor anticav attack? bravo man. Youre applying math to prove that jan abus sux.
Normal civs have no way to deal with jan abus, and jan abus cav is impossible.
Abus kite strelet.
https://youtu.be/WAc851E6l68?t=8m51s
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Otto can just ff against Russia and like 15 jans and falc and than later mams will just rek russia
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garja wrote:If sioux can semi, every civ with 400w and exiled prince can semi.diarouga wrote:Sioux can semi btw.
Not all civs with 400w and exiled prince can semi, so sioux cant semi.
eh??!? logic?
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somppukunkku wrote:Play this match up 10 times versus someone decent. You as russia, opponent as ottos. You will lose 10-0. Trust me.garja wrote:Dude otto lose to every single civ on non TP map, not just Russia which btw already does fine vs colonial otto.
Ports already benefit a lot from the new maps. Basically whenever ports have enought hunts to reach late game they have good chances to win.
Id be happy to do it but my laptop gaming skills are worse than Princes singing skills. And I dont really have time
on no tp map otto should defo lose to russia :/
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The logic is that since other civs like French and Germans cant semi in many cases, sioux cant either. Germann and French have more defense resource than sioux who have no buildings to shield or mm. The way sioux ages is generally make units for a while and then age sneakily.umeu wrote:eh??!? logic?garja wrote:If sioux can semi, every civ with 400w and exiled prince can semi.
Not all civs with 400w and exiled prince can semi, so sioux cant semi.
The reason why sioux get away with semi is because none is trying to punish them with a rush nowadays.
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well in what cases you can semi obviously depends on the mu and the playstyle of your oppo.
anyway what i meant was more that you phrased yourself poorly, rather than that you are wrong in saying that sioux semi is not always viable
anyway what i meant was more that you phrased yourself poorly, rather than that you are wrong in saying that sioux semi is not always viable
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i totally agree with nerfing sioux bow rider and iro units. but could you give them steel trap? bow rider is strong indeed, but what can sioux do except laming br? their eco is shit, they even can't spam 5 cav and 5 cetan in a batch. and the same to iro: toma and kanya are shit. their eco is shit.
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Lol, st is op, we don t want to buff twc civs.
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no because germans is so much more funzo
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diarouga wrote:Lol, st is op, we don t want to buff twc civs.
if twc civs dont have op eco they should have op units. or how can they deal with euro civs semiff?
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paul wrote:if twc civs dont have op eco they should have op units. or how can they deal with euro civs semiff?diarouga wrote:Lol, st is op, we don t want to buff twc civs.
iro is supposedly still good after the nerfs, aztec is already too strong and sioux is barely changed.
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Fortunate then that they do!paul wrote:if twc civs dont have op eco they should have op units. or how can they deal with euro civs semiff?diarouga wrote:Lol, st is op, we don t want to buff twc civs.
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yeah, the more I think about it, the more I feel like Aztec is going to be the top civ. Especially since they got a little ninja buff.
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?jerom wrote:yeah, the more I think about it, the more I feel like Aztec is going to be the top civ. Especially since they got a little ninja buff.
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"- Aztec fortress age "Shaman" politician now grants 2 Nobles huts instead of 1."ovi12 wrote:?jerom wrote:yeah, the more I think about it, the more I feel like Aztec is going to be the top civ. Especially since they got a little ninja buff.
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Pretty strong buff indeed.
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Not really, but given that Aztec might have been a top civ already
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I doubt that buff will make much difference. The majority of Aztec players never age up.
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But has anyone solved the tomahawks freezing to death issue?
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