[POLL] If China had to be nerfed...

[Jaeger]

China is going to be nerfed in the next patch.
I think you overrate china guys, we don t need to nerf them so much.

Rlly?? I think if they nerf age 3 china they should buff disciples to make it easier to age

Im not really sure how classified this information is but you shouldnt worry. Its a small and fair nerf imo.

I do think they should buff disciples to make it a little easier to age, and then they can slightly nerf age 3 as well.

[fei123456]

buff steppe riders! make the age 2 7 steppe rider card infinite! then i wont complain about nerfing their age 3.

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FOR CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[lemmings121]

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China is going to be nerfed in the next patch.
I think you overrate china guys, we don t need to nerf them so much.

Rlly?? I think if they nerf age 3 china they should buff disciples to make it easier to age

Im not really sure how classified this information is but you shouldnt worry. Its a small and fair nerf imo.

I do think they should buff disciples to make it a little easier to age, and then they can slightly nerf age 3 as well.

Oh god no, this remembers me of early tad, with disciples killing everything AND conventing into more disciples.
/trauma

[thebritish]

I think buffing disciples while being more expensive to help them age safer in age 3, but nerf their age 3 shipments, so they wont be able to annihilate every civ just because of shipments..
So, china should have between french and german type shipments i think, instead of having french+german shipments combined..

[sudmakmak]

I think buffing disciples while being more expensive to help them age safer in age 3, but nerf their age 3 shipments, so they wont be able to annihilate every civ just because of shipments..
So, china should have between french and german type shipments i think, instead of having french+german shipments combined..

shipment age3 china.Its ok. they are cheap units.
u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)

[Mimsy for President]

EP Team had better consider this poll. The people have spoken !

MIMSY 2016
MAKE ESOC PATCH GREAT AGAIN

[momuuu]

I dont understand why the option with the best change last is winning. China simply CANNOT be balanced on both livestock maps and non-livestock maps. If you nerf anything but their livestock, they're gonna be bad on non livestock maps or still too strong on livestock maps.. It is literally the only viable option to properly balance china for the current mappool.

[Darwin_]

All we need to do is nerf shipments and buff eco. Problem solved.

[fei123456]

i have to say china age 3 is strong, but this is not because of their shipments. its just their cav. meteor hammer >>>>> cuirass.
china fortress shipments are normal imo. they have 9 redcoad but india has it too, and india even has 9 sepoy (080 res) 9 zam (1080 res) and elephants, urumi...

[sudmakmak]

i have to say china age 3 is strong, but this is not because of their shipments. its just their cav. meteor hammer >>>>> cuirass.
china fortress shipments are normal imo. they have 9 redcoad but india has it too, and india even has 9 sepoy (1200 res) 9 zam (1200 res) and elephants, urumi...

yes,India have too.

[sudmakmak]

All we need to do is nerf shipments and buff eco. Problem solved.

shipment age3 china.Its ok. they are cheap units.
u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)
and map ui2 .can watch, china are bad eco.

[britishmusketeer]

shipment age3 china.Its ok. they are cheap units.
u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)
and map ui2 .can watch, china are bad eco.

chinas eco is actually pretty good because you can make vills in transition(6 vill) + summer palace(5 vill) + porcelain tower(8vill) + export(5% eco boost) which combine with cost effective units to make them a strong civ. Individual games rarely tell you much about a matchup. The reason you complain about china is just because you are bad at the game. Sorry but someone had to point this out.

[Mimsy for President]

u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)

Yes you can. Ever heard of cost/effectiveness ?

[sudmakmak]

shipment age3 china.Its ok. they are cheap units.
u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)
and map ui2 .can watch, china are bad eco.

chinas eco is actually pretty good because you can make vills in transition(6 vill) + summer palace(5 vill) + porcelain tower(8vill) + export(5% eco boost) which combine with cost effective units to make them a strong civ. Individual games rarely tell you much about a matchup. The reason you complain about china is just because you are bad at the game. Sorry but someone had to point this out.

OMG, LOL, Ok I'm bad but H2O or other player play at tournament. They play china. They are bad. Because They lose eco with China.
transition(6 vill)??? mean??

[britishmusketeer]

shipment age3 china.Its ok. they are cheap units.
u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)
and map ui2 .can watch, china are bad eco.

chinas eco is actually pretty good because you can make vills in transition(6 vill) + summer palace(5 vill) + porcelain tower(8vill) + export(5% eco boost) which combine with cost effective units to make them a strong civ. Individual games rarely tell you much about a matchup. The reason you complain about china is just because you are bad at the game. Sorry but someone had to point this out.

OMG, LOL, Ok I'm bad but H2O or other player play at tournament. They play china. They are bad. Because They lose eco with China.
transition(6 vill)??? mean??

there have been hardly any china non-mirrors in the tournament and those where china lost was down to the china player not playing optimally or not as well as the opponent. By 6 vill in transition i mean since they an asain civ they can make vills while aging giving them an extra 3 vills over other civs when they age to age 2, and 3 when they age to age 3.

[thebritish]

shipment age3 china.Its ok. they are cheap units.
u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)
and map ui2 .can watch, china are bad eco.

chinas eco is actually pretty good because you can make vills in transition(6 vill) + summer palace(5 vill) + porcelain tower(8vill) + export(5% eco boost) which combine with cost effective units to make them a strong civ. Individual games rarely tell you much about a matchup. The reason you complain about china is just because you are bad at the game. Sorry but someone had to point this out.

OMG, LOL, Ok I'm bad but H2O or other player play at tournament. They play china. They are bad. Because They lose eco with China.
transition(6 vill)??? mean??

I can easily beat 2 players below PR22 at once if they leave me for 2-3 minutes after i age to fortress.
-Also, by saying china is bad you confirm that you are bad in the game..

[sudmakmak]

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shipment age3 china.Its ok. they are cheap units.
u can't compare cheap units (china) between expensive units (other civs)
and map ui2 .can watch, china are bad eco.

chinas eco is actually pretty good because you can make vills in transition(6 vill) + summer palace(5 vill) + porcelain tower(8vill) + export(5% eco boost) which combine with cost effective units to make them a strong civ. Individual games rarely tell you much about a matchup. The reason you complain about china is just because you are bad at the game. Sorry but someone had to point this out.

OMG, LOL, Ok I'm bad but H2O or other player play at tournament. They play china. They are bad. Because They lose eco with China.
transition(6 vill)??? mean??

I can easily beat 2 players below PR22 at once if they leave me for 2-3 minutes after i age to fortress.
-Also, by saying china is bad you confirm that you are bad in the game..

sry. man I have high pr+ than 22

[thebritish]

lets play?
-i wanna see you beat me..

[sudmakmak]

lets play?
-i wanna see you beat me..

Welcome to Voobly?
Or u will rush me?

[sudmakmak]

lets play?
-i wanna see you beat me..

Welcome to Voobly?
Or u will rush me? because who how to counter china
and if they don't buff age 2 it useless. if they use logic. buff ok.
It not need who can have 2 skill.
example 1 man have more IQ but bad play football. or 1 man have skill play football but bad IQ.

[thebritish]

lets play?
-i wanna see you beat me..

Welcome to Voobly?
Or u will rush me? because who how to counter china
and if they don't buff age 2 it useless. if they use logic. buff ok.
It not need who can have 2 skill.
example 1 man have more IQ but bad play football. or 1 man have skill play football but bad IQ.

I am going to play with china because i think they are OP.
You need to beat me to prove me wrong..

[[Armag] diarouga]

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lets play?
-i wanna see you beat me..

Welcome to Voobly?
Or u will rush me? because who how to counter china
and if they don't buff age 2 it useless. if they use logic. buff ok.
It not need who can have 2 skill.
example 1 man have more IQ but bad play football. or 1 man have skill play football but bad IQ.

I am going to play with china because i think they are OP.
You need to beat me to prove me wrong..

I can prove you're wrong lol.

[momuuu]

Thebritish stop arguing by saying you're good and then challenge people to prove you wrong. Im pretty sure I could prove you wrong in any match up really, so lets do a BO144.

[deleted_user]

Play every possible match up! 14 choose 2 I believe = 91 games. BO 91. Do it.