Nerf the Daimyos!

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forgrin wrote:
zoom wrote:
forgrin wrote:The patch team can easily nerf Japan's super-lategame and gamebreaking treaty issues on the EP without hurting their typical supremacy 1v1 game, and this will massively appeal to both lower PR sup players and the treaty community without affecting mid-high PR 1v1s in any serious way. This really shouldn't still be a debate.

#nerfbuttfuku

I'm confused. Is he mocking me?
No, he just facetiously pointed out that nerfing Bakufu (= buttfuku in the Zoomish dictionary) is a solution to your problem.
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thebritish wrote:
sudmakmak wrote:
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um. u don't understand. skill player and logic.
football . have 2 ?
1. football player (messi or ronado)
2. football managers coach.

1. football player can play everything?
but If u want win need use logic?
logic????
Who are logic = coach.

so If esoc Want balance . Use logic .
don't use skill players. understand?
A football team(full all star football player )but don't have logic
B football team (normal player but have logic(best coach))
so team b win . ok

but IF u have logic . u will understand it.
Balance civ game ≠ skill player
Balance civ game = logic

I think i completely understand what you wanted to say and i support your opinion.. :)
Can you translate it for us, please?
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thebritish wrote:
sudmakmak wrote:
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um. u don't understand. skill player and logic.
football . have 2 ?
1. football player (messi or ronado)
2. football managers coach.

1. football player can play everything?
but If u want win need use logic?
logic????
Who are logic = coach.

so If esoc Want balance . Use logic .
don't use skill players. understand?
A football team(full all star football player )but don't have logic
B football team (normal player but have logic(best coach))
so team b win . ok

but IF u have logic . u will understand it.
Balance civ game ≠ skill player
Balance civ game = logic

I think i completely understand what you wanted to say and i support your opinion.. :)


Thank you if u understand it.
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Thing is, in aoe3 we don't have any coachs. Before I play a game, I don't ask someone what I should do. So if I make good decisions, it is because I know the game well.
However, if you're 1st lieut, it is because you don't make good decisions, ie you don't know the game enough.

Conclusion: Top players know the balance better.
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sudmakmak wrote:
um. u don't understand. skill player and logic.
football . have 2 ?
you could possibly understand football dynamics, so I am going to work with that
1. football player (messi or ronado)
Those guys are good [players/_H2O...]
2. football managers coach.
Those guys have some game knowledge

1. football player can play everything?
but If u want win need use logic?
logic????
Who are logic = coach.
use the guys with good game knowledge to balance the game
so If esoc Want balance . Use logic .
yes sir
don't use skill players. understand?
not all all, they "use logic"
A football team(full all star football player )but don't have logic
not existant because those gyus can do more then just shooting a ball
B football team (normal player but have logic(best coach))
unlikely, but okay
so team b win . ok
possible, even if unlikely

but IF u have logic . u will understand it.
sorry then :(
Balance civ game ≠ skill player
no
Balance civ game = logic
yes, balanced by a skilled, well-rounded player to make sure that the game is as balanced as possible
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Thing is, in aoe3 we don't have any coachs. Before I play a game, I don't ask someone what I should do. So if I make good decisions, it is because I know the game well.
However, if you're 1st lieut, it is because you don't make good decisions, ie you don't know the game enough.

Conclusion: Top players know the balance better.


not really , u can have good decision making but lacking on mechanics and micro .
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sergyou wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Thing is, in aoe3 we don't have any coachs. Before I play a game, I don't ask someone what I should do. So if I make good decisions, it is because I know the game well.
However, if you're 1st lieut, it is because you don't make good decisions, ie you don't know the game enough.

Conclusion: Top players know the balance better.


not really , u can have good decision making but lacking on mechanics and micro .
Exactly.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:Thing is, in aoe3 we don't have any coachs. Before I play a game, I don't ask someone what I should do. So if I make good decisions, it is because I know the game well.
However, if you're 1st lieut, it is because you don't make good decisions, ie you don't know the game enough.

Conclusion: Top players know the balance better.


????
example dyddyd91 play at tournament.
If he can play japan only?
He maybe win more
Because he play japan only for normal rate.
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sergyou wrote:
[Armag] diarouga wrote:Thing is, in aoe3 we don't have any coachs. Before I play a game, I don't ask someone what I should do. So if I make good decisions, it is because I know the game well.
However, if you're 1st lieut, it is because you don't make good decisions, ie you don't know the game enough.

Conclusion: Top players know the balance better.


not really , u can have good decision making but lacking on mechanics and micro .

Yes, but you can't be good and have bad decision making.
If you're colonel, you know more about balance than a MS, that's for sure. Mechanics are over rated.
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And in the world example
1 human have 1 brain and 2 hand (right hand and left right)

brain = logic
2 hand (right hand and left right) = skill player

so Who can use 2 hand (right hand and left right) balance.
example u can't write by 2 hand (right hand and left right)
Best right hand write a b c d e f g (beautiful)
but if u use left hand u can't write a b c d e f g (not beautiful)
or
u can't control or play game by 2 hand (right hand and left right)
Best right hand click mouse
but if u use left hand . u can't control better than right hand?

10000000000000000000000000000000000 people can't
1 or 2 people from 10000000000000000000000000000000000
can use 2 hand balance

Balance civ game ≠ skill player
Balance civ game = logic
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your analogies are so dumb lol
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britishmusketeer wrote:your analogies are so dumb lol


my bad english. If I can use good english. u will understand it.
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What you don't understand is that a good player is good mechanically and at understanding the game.
If you're only good mechanically or only at understanding the game, then you'll be major.

Also some people are both bad mechanically and at "logic", so what tells us that your logic is better than our?
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but IF u have logic . u will understand it.
Balance civ game ≠ skill player
Balance civ game = logic[/quote]
I think i completely understand what you wanted to say and i support your opinion.. :)[/quote]Can you translate it for us, please?[/quote]
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:If you're only good mechanically or only at understanding the game, then you'll be major

Hey, thats me. decent understanding, mechanics of a turtle with parkinson's disease.


Not only that, but imo there is a huge understanding gap of the game between different ranks, when I play with some pr 25 usually I see that they lack a lot of what I know... and when I play against a 35, they know much more...
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Someone who has 2x better mechanics can still lose to you if you have better game knowledge than him...
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thebritish wrote:Someone who has 2x better mechanics can still lose to you if you have better game knowledge than him...
I am not sure
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Marco1698 wrote:
thebritish wrote:Someone who has 2x better mechanics can still lose to you if you have better game knowledge than him...
I am not sure

Boneng easily beats players who have better mechanics than him...
I think he has mechanics as PR33-PR35 players, but his knowledge is for PR43+ which gives him advantage over other PR36-PR38 players who have good mechanics and knowledge for their rank.
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That's how it would be explained in anime :D
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thebritish wrote:
Marco1698 wrote:
thebritish wrote:Someone who has 2x better mechanics can still lose to you if you have better game knowledge than him...
I am not sure

Boneng easily beats players who have better mechanics than him...
I think he has mechanics as PR33-PR35 players, but his knowledge is for PR43+ which gives him advantage over other PR36-PR38 players who have good mechanics and knowledge for their rank.
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