News update for videos

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News update for videos

I will update every games for china or japan.
Everyone think china are top civ.(OP) OK.
And Everyone think japan are fine.OK.

This post is news update.

- https://www.twitch.tv/mongo10_/v/54074041
china vs japan

- http://www.twitch.tv/aiz11/v/51615447

- https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=cpoF6wKuZs0 (42.20min)

- https://www.twitch.tv/aiz11/v/54165691 (1.26.20min ) I watch more game and aiz can beat yurashic more game
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nerf hard japan next patch
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japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings
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Thank you lol
But I know.
Satire me?
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Rikikipu wrote:japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings

lol'd
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Post by britishmusketeer »

lol you can't use examples of specific games as too whether a civ is strong or not... Especially not aiz's games. I personally feel that china is probably slightly overrated and japan slightly underrated, but this is not the way I would prove it xD
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the problem of china vs japan is:
1.china dont have fast age up
2.china dont have cannon (flying crow is a joke)
thus, japan already know what are you doing in a whole game before 4:00. he just boom 200 pop shrines, train 0 unit, and still reach age 3 just in 1 minute after china. and without cannon, you can't do anything if japan has some units, and wall 2 layers: even if you have 30+ more military units. yeah walls are nerfed, but without cannon it's still impossible to siege with yumi shooting behind walls.
take french for example. japan can't exactly know what a french player is going to do with a single scout before age 2. french can age up with 400w, and do a xbow pike push/semiff tpboom/musk timing push, so japan cannot boom that happily and go fortress without proper scout. and if french go age 3 with fast age up, 2 cannons can do a lot of thing before japan has 2 flaming arrows came out.

so...... though this guy's topics seems quite stupid, i have to say i partly agree with that. goodspeed himself wrote in his guide that china is a trash tier civ, but it comes out that you're to nerf china after winter games? china is 1 of the 2 least versatile civs (another is spain), everyone know what china is going to do before age 2 (or even before game started). they dont have cannons, nor fast age up. old han reform? i dont care if you nerf it, cuz it's just not available in most cases.
yeah china has a good performance in winter games, but remember that 90% of the games are played on tibet/manchuria etc. they can't deal with french/german at all on tp maps (it's hard for japan india too, but at least better). and according to these games, china doesnt have a lot of advantage upon japan and india.

livestock is a great buff to china indeed, but japan and india benefit from them too. manchuria and tibet is good for china not only because the yaks, but also the 90w 85w treasures. we just shouldn't have so many wood treasures and livestocks on the same map. you guys design some maps just for china, and then you say china is too op on these maps and should be nerfed? this sounds ridiculous.
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this is what goodspeed said in his guide :)
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I agree with Couprider. They're really a mediocre civ IMO on non-livestock maps, quite bad on non-TP maps, and really need wood treasures to do well. They're hilariously map-dependent which is why we see China on Tibet and Mongolia and essentially nowhere else. On top of that they have the weakness of only having one useable strat (outside of mirrors that is).
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Goodspeed rated china tier 4? Guy mustve been high lol.
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Rikikipu wrote:japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings

Xdddddd
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Jerom wrote:Goodspeed rated china tier 4? Guy mustve been high lol.


Keep in mind GS was using FP Great Plains as the base map for balance, and arguably they are pretty bad there.
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To be fair China was pretty bad in the metagame at the time. He also rated India as Tier 1 and Germany as Tier 3. All of this was accurate in the meta at the time, but a lot of it has changed. India's now tier 3-4ish and Germany's tier 1.
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stupid changing meta
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Mitoe wrote:To be fair China was pretty bad in the metagame at the time. He also rated India as Tier 1 and Germany as Tier 3. All of this was accurate in the meta at the time, but a lot of it has changed. India's now tier 3-4ish and Germany's tier 1.

i agree that german is tier 1 but india is never tier 4. asian civs (japan india) are ridiculously underrated currently imo.
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update news
japan win 99% wow top1st civ.
https://www.twitch.tv/aiz11/v/54398389

japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings
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I just laugh so hard when I see these posts xD
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This post can't update news videos,
because pro player don't pick china or pick but lose.
Very sad, I need update its.
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forgrin wrote:I agree with Couprider. They're really a mediocre civ IMO on non-livestock maps, quite bad on non-TP maps, and really need wood treasures to do well. They're hilariously map-dependent which is why we see China on Tibet and Mongolia and essentially nowhere else. On top of that they have the weakness of only having one useable strat (outside of mirrors that is).

Can you beat someones china?
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IP Man wrote:
forgrin wrote:I agree with Couprider. They're really a mediocre civ IMO on non-livestock maps, quite bad on non-TP maps, and really need wood treasures to do well. They're hilariously map-dependent which is why we see China on Tibet and Mongolia and essentially nowhere else. On top of that they have the weakness of only having one useable strat (outside of mirrors that is).

Can you beat someones china?

Nobody really plays China at my PR
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forgrin wrote:
IP Man wrote:
forgrin wrote:I agree with Couprider. They're really a mediocre civ IMO on non-livestock maps, quite bad on non-TP maps, and really need wood treasures to do well. They're hilariously map-dependent which is why we see China on Tibet and Mongolia and essentially nowhere else. On top of that they have the weakness of only having one useable strat (outside of mirrors that is).

Can you beat someones china?

Nobody really plays China at my PR

Thats because with china everybody fly in ranks up to Major.
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you dont fly to major as china you spawn to PR 40..
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666_X wrote:you dont fly to major as china you spawn to PR 40..

thats also true :kinggreen:

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