why all new maps has same features?

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Re: why all new maps has same features?

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Garja wrote:Well that's the case already, except for 2 maps, one of which is meant to be that way. The other one was more about a coincidence, admittedly.


You are probably referring to Tibet? If that's the case, 6 tp's is really pushing it too far, it should be reworked.

As for High Plains, we can live with original five I guess, but majority would prefer 4.
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2x3 TPs isn't the same as 6 TPs. You only get stage-coach on one of those lines, unless you upgrade both routes.

Getting a lot of TPs without getting stagecoach is arguably a waste.
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.
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No I meant Klondike, Tibet does also have lot of TPs but ye they are split in 2 and the map works better with those TPs I think.
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Garja wrote:No I meant Klondike, Tibet does also have lot of TPs but ye they are split in 2 and the map works better with those TPs I think.


Completely forgot about Klondike. It's my least favorite map from new pack, probably because It has uneven gold distribution. I know "majority of gold in the middle" is meant to be a feature of the map, but i prefer your rule of two safe mines near each player tc spawn point. Also, something seems wrong with Klondike treasures. Either there are not enough treasures, or treasure guardians are too weak.
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Treasures are all level 1
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Goodspeed wrote:I'm not a fan of the abundance of long TP routes on the new maps either, it makes our job balancing a lot harder.
As for stagecoach I don't think it's a problem, it only becomes worth it in the midgame+. Speaking of exciting changes, instead let's remove stagecoach and make the resource income available from the start, but lower than it currently is. :D

I actually wouldn't dislike this much I think. Well it'd still be kinda lame (I mean, you're really just giving everyone an equivalent to shrines/manors/banks) but hey it does remove the current imbalanced stagecoach from the game :D

Btw, something about RE maps: Great plains was the map to play before ESOC maps were made, like 50%+ of the 1v1 games were on that map. With regards to stagecoach builds, GP is almost equivalent to a 1 TP map. This is probably the reason that stagecoach builds have truly become a thing after ESOC maps were released.
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Garja wrote:Treasures are all level 1


I remember quite a few 1v1 matches on Klondike where we managed to pick up almost every single treasure with euro explorers by 3 min mark. That seemed weird, it never happened to me in previous esoc map packs.
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It is like cascade range
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Garja wrote:Treasures are all level 1


oh cool, i really like that idea, glad to see that feature being used more
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Garja wrote:
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I just hope DE is not going to implement all of the EP changes. Right now it is a big clusterfuck.

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