Revolution Buff
Revolution Buff
I discovered yesterday that if you revolt, you no longer have the trade monopoly option enabled. I think this should be changed, because otherwise you are essentially guaranteeing the other player will win by hiding shit all over the map.
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Re: Revolution Buff
I think I said it somewhere else in another thread.
Revolution is a "I want to go down in style" button. It's an auto-loss to revolt.
STOP INVESTING IN ECONOMY
MAKE ALL UNITS
GET 5 CULVERINS
WAIT 5 MINUTES
ACQUIRE FREE ELO
Revolution is a "I want to go down in style" button. It's an auto-loss to revolt.
STOP INVESTING IN ECONOMY
MAKE ALL UNITS
GET 5 CULVERINS
WAIT 5 MINUTES
ACQUIRE FREE ELO
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I like revolting with a full eco in team...... However this has often gotten me many flames from my team mates, specifically
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Re: Revolution Buff
Papist wrote:I discovered yesterday that if you revolt, you no longer have the trade monopoly option enabled. I think this should be changed, because otherwise you are essentially guaranteeing the other player will win by hiding shit all over the map.
if you hide stuff you don't exactly win though
Re: Revolution Buff
iNcog wrote:I think I said it somewhere else in another thread.
Revolution is a "I want to go down in style" button. It's an auto-loss to revolt.
STOP INVESTING IN ECONOMY
MAKE ALL UNITS
GET 5 CULVERINS
WAIT 5 MINUTES
ACQUIRE FREE ELO
I replied in another thread, too. It's easier said than done, in many cases you just can't hold the push when your opponent gets around 50 colonial militia units and revolt bonus units (like imperial huss or tupis). You get overwhelmed, unless you have like 4 barracks and stable by that time and a lot of unspent resources in the bank, which happens pretty rarely I would assume
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Revolution is actually a viable option that only doesn't get used very often, because most players have never developed a feeling for when revolting is a good idea.
But how could they when most matches don't even pass Age 3, right? ^^ That's the issue with pro gamers. They only get to use and see a small part of the whole game while ordinary players aren't good enough to see the admittedly rare opportunity of revolting as a chance. I'll buff revolutions in NE btw and make also new ones.
Is it btw true that only one player can revolt in a game?
But how could they when most matches don't even pass Age 3, right? ^^ That's the issue with pro gamers. They only get to use and see a small part of the whole game while ordinary players aren't good enough to see the admittedly rare opportunity of revolting as a chance. I'll buff revolutions in NE btw and make also new ones.
Is it btw true that only one player can revolt in a game?
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Adding item #5939 to the to-fix bucketlist.
Re: Revolution Buff
I'm pretty sure that both players can do that.
EDIT: I checked and indeed only one player can revolt in a game, ofc I was wrong, @yemshi
EDIT: I checked and indeed only one player can revolt in a game, ofc I was wrong, @yemshi
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Re: Revolution Buff
you are pretty wrong then
Re: Revolution Buff
you can ship forts place them all over map and move explorer or change tp to gold and make spies from church, church and stage coach are 2 important things u should do b4 rev
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Lol who thinks revolt is an auto loss? It's not. I don't think I've ever lost a team game in which I revolted. And I went from pr 15 to pr 20 just from fast revolts.
Re: Revolution Buff
OK here is what you should do when you revolt: Colonial militia should still be able to gather resources. Just at a lesser rate.
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The only thing I see wrong with revolting is that you can't build any buildings after doing it. Some mods have a feature which allows revolting players to have a couple of vills.
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tilanus wrote:Revolution is actually a viable option that only doesn't get used very often, because most players have never developed a feeling for when revolting is a good idea.
But how could they when most matches don't even pass Age 3, right? ^^ That's the issue with pro gamers. They only get to use and see a small part of the whole game while ordinary players aren't good enough to see the admittedly rare opportunity of revolting as a chance. I'll buff revolutions in NE btw and make also new ones.
Is it btw true that only one player can revolt in a game?
Looks like someone here failed to admire 36drew.
I also think many people are very aware of the potency of otto and spain fast revolts.
I know only one team can revolt at the very least (which is a think in nr10 otto vs otto games lol) but Im not sure if it is one player.
About trade monopoly: yes it is incredibly gay that you can hide spies on the map and with sufficient effort prolong the game for maybe even an hour against a revolt. Opening up trade monopoly probably wouldnt work since you need resources for that which you probably dont have :p
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Re: Revolution Buff
Guys, guys, guys. We are getting off track from the real balance issues of the game.
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revolt is <3
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Re: Revolution Buff
lmao i thought breeze made this thread, thinking he was gonna say otto should revolt at 6min on deccan not 7 xD
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Re: Revolution Buff
tbh revolt should be a 6 min strat for all civs to accurately balance gameplay
in fact
let's amend EP so that the only playable civ is otto, and the only map in the map set is Deccan
in fact
let's amend EP so that the only playable civ is otto, and the only map in the map set is Deccan
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deleted_user wrote:Guys, guys, guys. We are getting off track from the real balance issues of the game.
#removescoutsnare2016
I think they're going to do it.
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Jerom wrote:tilanus wrote:Revolution is actually a viable option that only doesn't get used very often, because most players have never developed a feeling for when revolting is a good idea.
But how could they when most matches don't even pass Age 3, right? ^^ That's the issue with pro gamers. They only get to use and see a small part of the whole game while ordinary players aren't good enough to see the admittedly rare opportunity of revolting as a chance. I'll buff revolutions in NE btw and make also new ones.
Is it btw true that only one player can revolt in a game?
Looks like someone here failed to admire 36drew.
I also think many people are very aware of the potency of otto and spain fast revolts.
I know only one team can revolt at the very least (which is a think in nr10 otto vs otto games lol) but Im not sure if it is one player.
About trade monopoly: yes it is incredibly gay that you can hide spies on the map and with sufficient effort prolong the game for maybe even an hour against a revolt. Opening up trade monopoly probably wouldnt work since you need resources for that which you probably dont have :p
At the very least, it provides a way out. When I revolt as Otto, I usually gather 200 food and 400 wood so I can get stagecoach.
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I think if you catch your opponent behind in tech and investing too much in eco, a revolt can break them really easily. If you're Spain vs an age 2 Brit manor boom and you revolt with the 20 Huss, it's pretty much auto-win from there seeing as Brit was probably preparing lbow huss mass for your skirms and falcs.
Otto revolt is just ridiculous on RE if you go into the game expecting a rush, and sometimes you can't even beat it if you scout correctly. Damn spahi.
Otto revolt is just ridiculous on RE if you go into the game expecting a rush, and sometimes you can't even beat it if you scout correctly. Damn spahi.
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forgrin wrote:I think if you catch your opponent behind in tech and investing too much in eco, a revolt can break them really easily. If you're Spain vs an age 2 Brit manor boom and you revolt with the 20 Huss, it's pretty much auto-win from there seeing as Brit was probably preparing lbow huss mass for your skirms and falcs.
I think that's a wrong assumption — seing that your Spanish opponent is in the Industrial Age, you can prepare better for that crucial push he's going to make. It's not like that that you are in the Fortress and a minute later you revolt, catching your opponent of guard.
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If you let spain/otto just revolt its going to be aefully hard to ever recover from it. 36drew even beats samwise's china with a fast revolt strat as spain. That stuff is kinda legit.
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