Esoc events are just great, its whats keeps me and a lot of people still on the game, if it was only ladder qs, I believe the game would be nearly dead by now. So i have to thank you guys for the effort About maps:
Map veto is good imo, forcing people to play water is annoying, having only standard maps is too. this way a pool can have a few non standard maps, and is up to the players decided if they want to play them or not.
We could have a few RE maps in tho, maps like NE and Yucatan are good, maybe a small rework to make spawns more consistent. They aren't super standard so that might bring some variety to the game without adding new stuff that people would have to learn.Future events:
Regional tournaments: there was even a recent thread by umeu where some nice ideas popped. everyone could signup, after signups close split people in 16 groups, Brazil, Latin america, USA, china a few euro groups (preferably with same or very near timezone) etc. then we could have a group stage where everyone plays everyone in their group (might give 3 points for win and 1 for a lost, just to incentivise people to play. Since there is no timezone nor language barrier, scheduling should be easier), the one with most points in each group goes to a single elimination bracket. Might give max 2 weeks for all groups games to happen, so it doesn't goes on for too long.
Another idea for a single day (or other short format to be defined): single civ tournament. You choose your civ on signup and play only that one. lets see which are the most versatile civs! (will kaiser beat all civs with german? can tit get a good run with his india being unable to change his civ vs aztec or french? will bsop just jan abus his way to the win?)(and also, see different matchups happening, since no counterpick! enough brit vs russia!
Nekoberk mentioned a medal system. That could be fun, give small badges (I mean small, like the current flags) for people doing useful stuff for the community. examples: "uploaded more then 'x' self record games"; "casted more then 'x' games"; "played in 'x' event";
could also give a icon representing the best result the player had in a esoc main event (2nd place, top 16, top 128, anything, just to people have something to look for, incentivising people to actually play the main event even if they are not 35+ "hah! this season i'll get that top 64 medal!"
So, I'm not really gonna read through all the posts but I pretty much agree with everything lammings said in this post...
Imo map veto is a good thing for tournaments it brings more depth and strategy to the game. I don't see it as a limiting factor to what kinds of map are going to be played.
People seem to be urging for more non-standard maps, so if a map pool has for example 2 vetos and 3 non-standard theres going to be at least one non-standard map. And maybe a strategy for a player would be to practice the non-standard while vetoing a map like arkansas to try and throw their opponent off. So I like how this mechaninc works.
My only take on it would be to change its rules a little. Imo the veto should be issued right before the game starts - if there's a reason to make it in advance pls let me know
. Also maybe consider giving players at least 2 vetos every round, adding more to the civ picking strategies and map choices.
Btw, I wonder if we could see a small event that would use the Smackdown civ rules.
One more point i'd like to touch is the ammount of big events. I agree with the people who say that they should be reduced. When Esoc was starting it made a lot of sense to make a lot of big tourneys, just because the AoE community seemed to be a little dead. As of right now, I think the community developed lots of content that can fill the gaps between big tourneys (which we didn't have before apart from smackdown).
To end the post I'd also suggest that these filler events would have different rules, map pools, and all sorts of variety so that you can use the experience and feedbacks acquired on them to make the main events even better.
It's great to see the direction the community is going, and I hope you keep improving it everyday! Thanks for giving us this space for sharing our opinions! Peace!
"Anything can happen. Just throw all of your points on the underdog (...). They are looking more like overdogs this tournament. Haha. A joke." - GS