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13 Aug 2017, 14:47

gibson wrote:You're honestly probably closer to the truth than just about anyone else. Ideologically I find myself pretty far to the left, yet I have completely alienated myself from and do not consider myself a part of the left in the United States because its incredibly polarized and reactionary. Take for example all the racial violence. The right is generally speaking unwilling to accept that a very large part of why the African American community is not as well off as other races is do to racial injustice leading back to slavery. This is clearly not correct. If it wasn't for slavery and the racial injustice that followed the African American community would almost certainly be in a better spot than it is today. However, the left takes it way too far. You have people calling for white genocide, African Americans today who are becoming racist against white people and in so doing becoming the very thing they are trying to fight against, African Americans who blame their plite today directly upon white people today, etc. Now the thing is the vast majority of people on both sides are much more moderate than I just described, but because everything is so polarized you either have to make compromises in your beliefs which drive you more towards the extreme side of things or denounce your side entirely. I've seen it first hand. People I know who were moderately right or left are now making posts on facebook and saying things that 2 years ago would have been considered extreme, but are slowly becoming the norm. Its creating an Us vs Them mentality which is really hurting this country. I've lost good friends because they considered me a "bad guy" because I didn't agree with them politically. Its sad really.


well thats what happens when you think only in dichotomies. maybe if we stop talking about left vs right and sides, it could help. Probably not. most people need to be in some group to be happy/function apparently.

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13 Aug 2017, 16:35

Well most articles I've read labelled it as neo-fascist terrorism...
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13 Aug 2017, 17:11

gibson wrote:You're honestly probably closer to the truth than just about anyone else. Ideologically I find myself pretty far to the left, yet I have completely alienated myself from and do not consider myself a part of the left in the United States because its incredibly polarized and reactionary. Take for example all the racial violence. The right is generally speaking unwilling to accept that a very large part of why the African American community is not as well off as other races is do to racial injustice leading back to slavery. This is clearly not correct. If it wasn't for slavery and the racial injustice that followed the African American community would almost certainly be in a better spot than it is today. However, the left takes it way too far. You have people calling for white genocide, African Americans today who are becoming racist against white people and in so doing becoming the very thing they are trying to fight against, African Americans who blame their plite today directly upon white people today, etc. Now the thing is the vast majority of people on both sides are much more moderate than I just described, but because everything is so polarized you either have to make compromises in your beliefs which drive you more towards the extreme side of things or denounce your side entirely. I've seen it first hand. People I know who were moderately right or left are now making posts on facebook and saying things that 2 years ago would have been considered extreme, but are slowly becoming the norm. Its creating an Us vs Them mentality which is really hurting this country. I've lost good friends because they considered me a "bad guy" because I didn't agree with them politically. Its sad really.


I was told the decrease in religiosity would lead to less conflict...

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Do you think the people fighting and arguing over General Lee, ObamaCare, transgender bans, North Korea, etc., have any idea what they are talking about? Not really. They just pick a side and then try to kill off the other side.

These little conflicts recently are almost entirely due to the decrease in religiosity. People get their sense of purpose, their idea of right and wrong, their heroes and villains, from secular ideologies nowadays, and this is the very predictable result.

It’s a familiar conservative lament to say this is all part of the politicization of everything. And I think that’s true. But you can flip it on its head, too. Everything is becoming lifestylized (I hereby decree that’s a word). It’s like that ancient debate between Plato and Socrates: Did Socrates get his chocolate in Plato’s peanut butter or did Plato get peanut butter in Socrates’ chocolate? (“That sounds dirty” — The Couch.)

Scads have been written, mostly by conservatives and libertarians, about the problem of politics bleeding into the nooks and crannies of traditionally apolitical life. And I agree with much of it. But far less has been written about how lifestyle is creeping into politics. With the decline of traditional religion and other mediating institutions, the primary source of identity for ever larger numbers of people is partisan affiliation. Indeed, partisan affiliation — for the first time ever — is often more predictive of behavior and attitudes than race, ethnicity, religion, and gender. That’s bananas.

But it’s also utterly predictable. When politics becomes a secular religion, a source of meaning, or simply a “lifestyle,” politics will be less about arguments and tradeoffs and more about wearing “ideas” on your sleeve. I agree with Jonathan Last when he writes that the current hysteria over the Paris pullout is virtue signaling about virtue signaling. But what else can you expect when people start wearing their partisan affiliation the way people once wore a crucifix or Star of David?

Disagreements become insults when politics becomes a statement about who you are. And, as I keep saying, that explains why so many now define free speech as assault and assault as free speech.


Whereas Christianity unites people regardless of other characteristic they may have, secular ideology inherently places all importance on the earthly world. When you believe there is nothing more than this world, your fellow man becomes not ally, but competition, and national, ethnic, linguistic, and similarly ultimately meaningless characteristics become defensive lines in a war. And that's very useful to tyrants. See my signature.

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13 Aug 2017, 17:13

yes cause back when people were more religious there was definitely less conflict.......
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13 Aug 2017, 17:22

I for one think they should deport everyone who is unironically subscribed to /r/the_donald
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13 Aug 2017, 17:26

UniteTheRight wrote:Our message is simple to all you liberal snowflakes who hate dialogue. Here are some videos explaining why this happened. The permit to protest was revoked to protest the removal of the statue of Robert E Lee and the supreme court said they can protest but the liberal Charlotte VA just banned them because "safe space" which reminds me of how ESOC is run so no surprise there. They want to take away freedom of speech from the right while giving all the rights to the left and we will not stand for it anymore. You guys are so fucking biased......
And its because of people like you(assuming youre not a troll) that our country is falling apart. And no it's not because you're a right extremist(although being a right extremist and being uneducated, unintelligent, and dense seem to go together) but because all you do is make generalizations and hurl insults. Why do you think they tryed to stop the protest? Because it was going to lead to violence, and look what happened. People fucking died man and all you care is pushing your stupid anti pc agenda because the pc culture has gone too far in a few places. You refuse to look at the facts and instead point to isolated incidents where the other side pushed things too far and use that as justification for your own hood ratitry. You people make me fucking sick. If you care more about pushing your stupid agenda then you do about the people of this country you should just get the fuck out.
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13 Aug 2017, 17:44

haha what debate club do they teach car crashing as an acceptable dialogue tactic?
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13 Aug 2017, 17:59

gibson wrote:
UniteTheRight wrote:Our message is simple to all you liberal snowflakes who hate dialogue. Here are some videos explaining why this happened. The permit to protest was revoked to protest the removal of the statue of Robert E Lee and the supreme court said they can protest but the liberal Charlotte VA just banned them because "safe space" which reminds me of how ESOC is run so no surprise there. They want to take away freedom of speech from the right while giving all the rights to the left and we will not stand for it anymore. You guys are so fucking biased......
And its because of people like you(assuming youre not a troll) that our country is falling apart. And no it's not because you're a right extremist(although being a right extremist and being uneducated, unintelligent, and dense seem to go together) but because all you do is make generalizations and hurl insults. Why do you think they tryed to stop the protest? Because it was going to lead to violence, and look what happened. People fucking died man and all you care is pushing your stupid anti pc agenda because the pc culture has gone too far in a few places. You refuse to look at the facts and instead point to isolated incidents where the other side pushed things too far and use that as justification for your own hood ratitry. You people make me fucking sick. If you care more about pushing your stupid agenda then you do about the people of this country you should just get the fuck out.


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13 Aug 2017, 18:07

I assumed so, but wanted to vent anyway
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13 Aug 2017, 18:25

gibson wrote:
UniteTheRight wrote:Our message is simple to all you liberal snowflakes who hate dialogue. Here are some videos explaining why this happened. The permit to protest was revoked to protest the removal of the statue of Robert E Lee and the supreme court said they can protest but the liberal Charlotte VA just banned them because "safe space" which reminds me of how ESOC is run so no surprise there. They want to take away freedom of speech from the right while giving all the rights to the left and we will not stand for it anymore. You guys are so fucking biased......
And its because of people like you(assuming youre not a troll) that our country is falling apart. And no it's not because you're a right extremist(although being a right extremist and being uneducated, unintelligent, and dense seem to go together) but because all you do is make generalizations and hurl insults. Why do you think they tryed to stop the protest? Because it was going to lead to violence, and look what happened. People fucking died man and all you care is pushing your stupid anti pc agenda because the pc culture has gone too far in a few places. You refuse to look at the facts and instead point to isolated incidents where the other side pushed things too far and use that as justification for your own hood ratitry. You people make me fucking sick. If you care more about pushing your stupid agenda then you do about the people of this country you should just get the fuck out.


I think this is exactly right. I wish more people in the US shared this view. I see this PC stuff all the time it's so degenerating. It's even gotten to the point of straight up misinformation about scientific research.
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13 Aug 2017, 18:41

yes... because thats exactly not what he said but ok...
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13 Aug 2017, 18:42

JakeyBoyTH wrote:It's even gotten to the point of straight up misinformation about scientific research.

What use is scientific research if it can't confirm our biases, eh?

It must be "pseudoscience" if it goes against our beliefs..

Revolution against this oppressive nature when? Gotta genetically engineer any inequality away from nature. Then everyone will have one testicle and one boob and we'll all be happily equal.
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13 Aug 2017, 19:14

The dude crashing his car into people is a murderer...pretty simple. Doesn't matter what your motives are: a killer is a killer in almost all cases imo
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13 Aug 2017, 19:16

HMM TOO BAD THOSE CIVILIANS DIDN'T HAVE GUNS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES HUH
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vardar wrote:The dude crashing his car into people is a murderer...pretty simple. Doesn't matter what your motives are: a killer is a killer in almost all cases imo


Welp, mental health issues again:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/13/ex-te ... -problems/
Weimer also said that Fields Jr. wanted to go into military service but was rejected on mental health grounds.

“His senior year, he was real gung-ho about joining the Army,” Weimer said. “And he, towards the end of the year, found out that he was denied, and it was because of a history of anti-psychotic mediation that he was prescribed.”
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13 Aug 2017, 19:46

/pol/ is now claiming that the car attack was a hoax LMAO
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14 Aug 2017, 01:43

Dolan wrote:
vardar wrote:The dude crashing his car into people is a murderer...pretty simple. Doesn't matter what your motives are: a killer is a killer in almost all cases imo


Welp, mental health issues again:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/13/ex-te ... -problems/
Weimer also said that Fields Jr. wanted to go into military service but was rejected on mental health grounds.

“His senior year, he was real gung-ho about joining the Army,” Weimer said. “And he, towards the end of the year, found out that he was denied, and it was because of a history of anti-psychotic mediation that he was prescribed.”


Ofcourse.
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Laurence Drake wrote:/pol/ is now claiming that the car attack was a hoax LMAO
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Laurence Drake wrote:HMM TOO BAD THOSE CIVILIANS DIDN'T HAVE GUNS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES HUH

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iam nt sure if this is the video .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX4uX-1dGrQ .. why people surprised idiots everywhere
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almalek wrote:iam nt sure if this is the video .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX4uX-1dGrQ .. why people surprised idiots everywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFR-iHmTWVo
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14 Aug 2017, 14:44

Dolan wrote:
vardar wrote:The dude crashing his car into people is a murderer...pretty simple. Doesn't matter what your motives are: a killer is a killer in almost all cases imo


Welp, mental health issues again:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/13/ex-te ... -problems/
Weimer also said that Fields Jr. wanted to go into military service but was rejected on mental health grounds.

“His senior year, he was real gung-ho about joining the Army,” Weimer said. “And he, towards the end of the year, found out that he was denied, and it was because of a history of anti-psychotic mediation that he was prescribed.”


Once again, you kill someone...you are a murderer. Mental illness doesn't change the fact you took a life.
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Laurence Drake wrote:HMM TOO BAD THOSE CIVILIANS DIDN'T HAVE GUNS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES HUH

big guns

agreed, they should have had RPGs
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vardar wrote:
Dolan wrote:
vardar wrote:The dude crashing his car into people is a murderer...pretty simple. Doesn't matter what your motives are: a killer is a killer in almost all cases imo


Welp, mental health issues again:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/13/ex-te ... -problems/
Weimer also said that Fields Jr. wanted to go into military service but was rejected on mental health grounds.

“His senior year, he was real gung-ho about joining the Army,” Weimer said. “And he, towards the end of the year, found out that he was denied, and it was because of a history of anti-psychotic mediation that he was prescribed.”


Once again, you kill someone...you are a murderer. Mental illness doesn't change the fact you took a life.
no if you kill someone you're a killer. For it to be murder it has to be premeditated.
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