Please try to calm down a little bit, there is no reason to blame anybody. It's has never been updated every single day so there is no reason to make a fuss about it now.
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Please try to calm down a little bit, there is no reason to blame anybody. It's has never been updated every single day so there is no reason to make a fuss about it now.
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@edeholland Its not transparant - I make a donaton to a "person" - and its not good enough. I should make a donations to ESOC, and the money should show instantly
- like it does in stream?? why should you not do this - and make any donations transparent????
- like it does in stream?? why should you not do this - and make any donations transparent????
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kk I made more that 1000 dollars donation mark, for more that a week ago, ???? nothing land happens
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Do you support ESOC and what they do? ESOC tries its best. ESOC's duty is to create and facilitate age of empires content not solely please their largest(?) donor. A donor should donate with this in mind, not solely for recognition. Sure it's okay to broach the topic. You've received a plural of painfully nice responses which have all apologized, detailed the (reasonable) reason, and promised to fix it soon. Ede even said they will work to automate it as you asked. That should be enough to say, "Thank you for listening to me."
Threatening to withhold funds (perfectly reasonable thing to do btw) because of this very minor issue (not so reasonable) strains the relationship between you and the admins and in fact works against your influence.
As far as valid ESOC criticisms go, which there are many, this fails to fall very high on that list. It, frankly, comes off a bit conceited. Everyone knows how valuable your support is and has been. This doesn't give you the right to make demands and be ever unsatisfied with each response.
I say this because no one on the team will.
You're appreciated, spanky! You do not need to worry
Threatening to withhold funds (perfectly reasonable thing to do btw) because of this very minor issue (not so reasonable) strains the relationship between you and the admins and in fact works against your influence.
As far as valid ESOC criticisms go, which there are many, this fails to fall very high on that list. It, frankly, comes off a bit conceited. Everyone knows how valuable your support is and has been. This doesn't give you the right to make demands and be ever unsatisfied with each response.
I say this because no one on the team will.
You're appreciated, spanky! You do not need to worry
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deleted_user wrote:Do you support ESOC and what they do? ESOC tries its best. ESOC's duty is to create and facilitate age of empires content not solely please their largest(?) donor. A donor should donate with this in mind, not solely for recognition. Sure it's okay to broach the topic. You've received a plural of painfully nice responses which have all apologized, detailed the (reasonable) reason, and promised to fix it soon. Ede even said they will work to automate it as you asked. That should be enough to say, "Thank you for listening to me."
Threatening to withhold funds (perfectly reasonable thing to do btw) because of this very minor issue (not so reasonable) strains the relationship between you and the admins and in fact works against your influence.
As far as valid ESOC criticisms go, which there are many, this fails to fall very high on that list. It, frankly, comes off a bit conceited. Everyone knows how valuable your support is and has been. This doesn't give you the right to make demands and be ever unsatisfied with each response.
I say this because no one on the team will.
You're appreciated, spanky! You do not need to worry
That is no where close to what I was saying, anyway. My only request is that the donations are made transparent. Not hard to grasp
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The front page and donation page are being overhauled at the moment. Hopefully we can make it easier to update donations on that page. If you want to discuss the specifics of your donation amount and validate that with us, we can do that over PM. I appreciate the patience while we are working on it.
Donations are generally transparent. The community knows how close we are to funding events and we also have badges to show off your contributions. Plus we usually maintain a top donors page.
We run on donations and not only us but the whole community appreciates donations. The reason you and others continue to donate after over two years and 10+ events is because the money you donate goes exclusively to funding prizes for events. I hope you can also consider that when you are concerned about donations.
Donations are generally transparent. The community knows how close we are to funding events and we also have badges to show off your contributions. Plus we usually maintain a top donors page.
We run on donations and not only us but the whole community appreciates donations. The reason you and others continue to donate after over two years and 10+ events is because the money you donate goes exclusively to funding prizes for events. I hope you can also consider that when you are concerned about donations.
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Vinyanenya wrote: soon while the devs work on automating the process.
did not read your post thoroughly enough I guess. that would be an answer to all my request And I guess all donations will be there - and not only the top ones
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We will make sure to update everything, of course! No worries, your donations are save!
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This is why Telethon donations are all handled by a third party service. It's quick, safe, and transparent!
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fightinfrenchman wrote:This is why Telethon donations are all handled by a third party service. It's quick, safe, and transparent!
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iwillspankyou wrote:I have made lots of donations - guess you know that. Last one for one week ago. Strangely it doesnt show on my donations list?
It could be some lag? I dont know, but even though I dont feel it safe to donate to esoc anymore, cos I dont know when or what anymore. I would like esoc to make a page where every donation are updated asap should not be hard
Probably because there's no automated system that creates a record of donations in their database and sends those records onto the webpage. I made the original donations page as a static page, because when the site was hosted on proboards, we had no access to the backend/servers, so it was impossible to create an automated system of recording donations. I noticed that they kept that static page until recently when they probably hit a snag with it. Either they couldn't update it anymore, because it relied on a library to draw those graphics, or they wanted to switch to another system. Or they wanted another kind of graphics to represent the current level of donations.
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hmm, its been 10 months. Did we get a donation list, or more transparency? Did I miss it, or did it not happen, - for some reasons unknown?
I mean, I will prolly donate some more to the next tournament, BUT I do not like the lack of transparency. I have spoken to one other donater, who say he will not donate as long as things are as they are. Just so you know
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@n0el get your shit together and make the list!
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@spanky4ever on the new animated overlays we can see your donations, is this not up to date? What is not transparent about your donations?
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Kaiserklein wrote:@spanky4ever on the new animated overlays we can see your donations, is this not up to date? What is not transparent about your donations?
I have made plenty of donations, off stream. And it takes ao3s to get them updated. For about 6 monts it has been the same figure -800 dollars to fund this tournament. Then suddenly, it was fully funded, with 400 for the next.
This is what I am talking about.
I think it would be a good thing that ppl could see their donations, right away. Good for transparency and good for moral, and the likelyhood they might want to donate some more. Win - Win for us all
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Well since they worked on having the donations on stream, I'm pretty sure they will fix them soon.
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Kaiserklein wrote:Well since they worked on having the donations on stream, I'm pretty sure they will fix them soon.
As I said. its been 10 months - still hoping they will figure it out
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at least 1000 blessings since I arrived back from the dead so where's my recognition
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@spanky4ever I agree with you and your concern is justified and absolutely legitimate. People need to bear in mind that if it wasn't for her support, we wouldn't have tournaments with a significant prize pool, therefore no top players taking part in them.
Some transparency wouldn't hurt you admins.
Some transparency wouldn't hurt you admins.
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Djigit wrote:@spanky4ever I agree with you and your concern is justified and absolutely legitimate. People need to bear in mind that if it wasn't for her support, we wouldn't have tournaments with a significant prize pool, therefore no top players taking part in them.
Some transparency wouldn't hurt you admins.
this is not only my concern though
I think esoc are losing donaters from the lack of transparancy. Who would not like to see their donations in a list? And try do overcome the next one on that list?
I just think it could be a really good thing for esoc
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I request to have myself included in this list.
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