Spyglass revives heroes, CHEAT OR NOT?

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Spyglass revives heroes, CHEAT OR NOT?

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In nr55 orinoco games, is it cheat or not when someone use spyglass to revive heroes within enemy base even with wall closed?
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No. Spyglass is a part of the game which costs energy for your explorer to use. I don't see why it would be cheating; that's like saying using a hot air balloon to revive your explorer is cheating.
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It's technically LOS and works as intended. While it's a little silly, it is not a cheat, it's just a neat little game mechanic. Same is true if someone uses balloons, they can capture herdables and revive hero type units.
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Cannonballs revive heroes too.
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Port spyglass is LOS kind of thing, it's not even a unit. Consider, if ur forebase wall is broken and his hero run in, then u close ur wall nicely and push well. all of a sudden, an alert rings in ur base, wtf, his hero revived without any unit near it. And then u kill it, continuing to push, he revive again, without any unit near.
His hero is like cancer, never left ur base, and u cant even wall him, because he is just in between ur narrow barracks, if u wall, u block ur way.
In this scinario, will u still think it's not cheat?
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How does he use spyglass to revive hero if his hero is dead?
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sdsanft wrote:How does he use spyglass to revive hero if his hero is dead?

port has 2 heroes shipment. So port has 3 heroes
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I didn't know people actually used that card
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sdsanft wrote:I didn't know people actually used that card

In treaty games, it is an op card
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It's definitely cheating. I'd even say it's a hack!
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Creative play is not cheating.
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Using this tactic is very frowned upon and generally has zero tolerance for anyone caught doing it.
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Papist wrote:Creative play is not cheating.

That's what all alt-D advocates say!
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HeatitUP_ wrote:Using this tactic is very frowned upon and generally has zero tolerance for anyone caught doing it.

Presumably among the same people who throw screaming fits if you push the natives on Andes.
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zoom wrote:
Papist wrote:Creative play is not cheating.

That's what all alt-D advocates say!


The difference being that alt d is a bug, not just a feature that OP doesn't like.
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zoom wrote:
Papist wrote:Creative play is not cheating.

That's what all alt-D advocates say!

The spyglass ability was intentionally put there by the developers and is meant to be used. Alt+D is a bug that ruins the spirit of the game. There a difference between using game mechanics creatively and using bugs creatively.
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Papist wrote:
zoom wrote:
Papist wrote:Creative play is not cheating.

That's what all alt-D advocates say!


The difference being that alt d is a bug, not just a feature that OP doesn't like.

Not a bug, it's simply using a feature
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It's a bug.
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its not cheating. you can also use herdables to revive hero. it also wont revive the hero when its not reached 100 hp yet.
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Papist wrote:
zoom wrote:
Papist wrote:Creative play is not cheating.

That's what all alt-D advocates say!


The difference being that alt d is a bug, not just a feature that OP doesn't like.

First of all, my point still stands. Second of all, it's clearly a feature – just like Industrial Age Shogunate and Training Forms.
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iCourt wrote:It's a bug.

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paddy_jai wrote:Port spyglass is LOS kind of thing, it's not even a unit. Consider, if ur forebase wall is broken and his hero run in, then u close ur wall nicely and push well. all of a sudden, an alert rings in ur base, wtf, his hero revived without any unit near it. And then u kill it, continuing to push, he revive again, without any unit near.
His hero is like cancer, never left ur base, and u cant even wall him, because he is just in between ur narrow barracks, if u wall, u block ur way.
In this scinario, will u still think it's not cheat?

Thats why, you alwas leave 1-2 units at his explorer or just wall around him
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Gichtenlord wrote:
paddy_jai wrote:Port spyglass is LOS kind of thing, it's not even a unit. Consider, if ur forebase wall is broken and his hero run in, then u close ur wall nicely and push well. all of a sudden, an alert rings in ur base, wtf, his hero revived without any unit near it. And then u kill it, continuing to push, he revive again, without any unit near.
His hero is like cancer, never left ur base, and u cant even wall him, because he is just in between ur narrow barracks, if u wall, u block ur way.
In this scinario, will u still think it's not cheat?

Thats why, you alwas leave 1-2 units at his explorer or just wall around him

normally i left my one hero near his hero. i cant wall him because he is in my forebase and i have no place for a inner wall. things become really ugly when there is carib nat. he spam caribs from hero and seige barracks, i know it's slow, but he do that all game, for an hour !
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zoom wrote:
Papist wrote:Creative play is not cheating.

That's what all alt-D advocates say!

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