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by สยาม
06 Nov 2015, 16:41
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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Chinese Discussion Thread

wuangaga wrote:
yemshi wrote:What do you mean with xp?
I think he means that the kill xp of a unit determines how good it is.
12xp Status difference 10 xp Status

for late game 200 vs 200
Status difference = uninstall game.
by สยาม
06 Nov 2015, 16:36
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
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Chinese Discussion Thread

yemshi wrote:What do you mean with xp?
If I can use good English. I say every detail.
by สยาม
06 Nov 2015, 16:23
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
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need use 1pop have 6xp(pike) and 1pop have 8xp(ckn) vs 1 pop have 12xp? use 1pop have 6xp(pike) and 1pop have 8xp(ckn) vs late game? vs revolution? 1pop have 6xp(pike) and 1pop have 8xp(ckn) cant win at late game? or vs revolution? uninstall = best choose.? xp doesnt matter xp =/= strength ? xp sam...
by สยาม
06 Nov 2015, 15:05
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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If at all, China needs a nerf to their Age IV Old Han. Cannons are supoosed to counter Infantry, that''s totally okay. need use 1pop have 6xp(pike) and 1pop have 8xp(ckn) vs 1 pop have 12xp? use 1pop have 6xp(pike) and 1pop have 8xp(ckn) vs late game? vs revolution? 1pop have 6xp(pike) and 1pop hav...
by สยาม
06 Nov 2015, 14:04
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What about hand mortars and meteor hammers. Even if its hard to get onto age 4, costs 1000 food - old han is just too OP... Hell, China is banned in treaty because of old han lol. How about this: old han costs no food, and improves old han 75% as opposed to 100%? Hand Mortars suck hard. They are us...
by สยาม
05 Nov 2015, 14:04
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Japanese Discussion Thread
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hazza54321 wrote:Ashis literally rek everything because of their high att and speed, for example acergame vs musket jr dutch vs ashi, ruyter skirm should counter ashi pretty hard but they really dont
yes, nerf japanese for balance
by สยาม
05 Nov 2015, 13:28
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Japanese Discussion Thread
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edeholland wrote:
chun wrote:yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
He is saying that if they have so strong units, they deserve to win.
Thank you, .
by สยาม
05 Nov 2015, 13:12
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Japanese Discussion Thread
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mmcnoel wrote:Ashli are only really good with card investment (attack, hp, daimyo) and they are expensive. If Japan can invest in all that they should win. That means they forced the play to their favor.
yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
by สยาม
05 Nov 2015, 11:52
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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just delete this fucking old han reform shit card or make it cost 5k food lol, u can win china at age1 age2 age3 . If they don''t change age2. u can win. and china will lose at age1 age2 age3. age4 for china useless. china can''t use old han reform. and old han reform use wood. and china have 1 pop...
by สยาม
03 Nov 2015, 15:04
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garja wrote:China shouldn''t lose to a rush. China cavalry army is good enough.
Yes, China will lose rush. and the most people will say china op, but lose rush? What op for lose rush.

Play China 8.00 min. and lose. It happy? My Free 8.00min for lose. wow
by สยาม
03 Nov 2015, 14:51
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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edeholland wrote:Nobody understands you Chun.
If I use thai. U will understand? ?
by สยาม
03 Nov 2015, 14:46
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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paul wrote:standard army
from 2 steppe rider 3 ckn to 3 rider 2 ckn

forbidden army
from 2 flail 2 hammer to 3 changdao 2 hammer
I think. buff china for anti cavalry and Coyote Runner. IT will work.
don''t need change forbidden army.
by สยาม
03 Nov 2015, 14:44
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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dont nerf old han. if so, nerf otto and spain revolt first. china age 2 cav is too weak. and age 3 cav needs some nerf(training speed?). forbidden army(age 3 cav) is interesting. iron flail is shit. meteur hammer is quite low-hp too. but when they work together they are just insane. so, maybe we ca...
by สยาม
03 Nov 2015, 14:36
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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China issues are pretty clear. Need a buff to colo cav, nerf to fortress shipemtns and a tweak on old han reforms. It''s just a matter of wanting to change those things or not. I think . If u can age3. shipment useless for china age3? because u lose house. lose village. village can''t fram(hunt ani...
by สยาม
03 Nov 2015, 14:30
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5 keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5 ? balance patch? um wait or bye this game. Lol zams have 3.0 rof Only gunpowder light cav with 1.5 rof are RRs. But yeah keshiks are shit. Imho: -Increase keshik HP by 10 -Nerf intervention to 8 musks -Decrease ...
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 16:41
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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Chinese Discussion Thread

paul wrote:
chun wrote:52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5

keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5

? balance patch? um wait or bye this game.
zamburak rof 3. test yourself.
I dont know. I dont play India.
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 16:37
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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Chinese Discussion Thread

Diarouga is normal player confirmed. It seems I am And btw, as garja said at the end, he failed, otherwise the musk/huss shouldnt really work vs a good chinese who ages up with the academy. The MU is still quite fair tho, on non herdable maps. i dont say, u are normal player. and he dreaming? have ...
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 15:30
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Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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Chinese Discussion Thread

paul wrote:
chun wrote:http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Zamburak

he rof 1.5
wrong it is. sure i am.
52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5

keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5

? balance patch? um wait or bye this game.
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 15:28
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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Chinese Discussion Thread

jerom wrote:Diarouga is normal player confirmed.
i don''t say Diarouga(i don''t say he''s normal player )
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 15:26
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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Pro player vs normal player (rofl) i say not with utube ok . not utube riot vs Diarouga ??? i dont say Diarouga(i dont say normal player lol) i say other pro player vs other normal player(use other civ) . china cant win by rush hard (cav+musk) or cavalry i not say with youtube. ok understand
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 13:56
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=856aUP3ym10">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=856aUP3ym10</a><!-- m --> 1:48:10 Balance? pro player vs normal player . china can't win rush or cav+musk most people say china op lol? what op? lol it not balance patch . if not fix it.
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 06:53
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bramboy wrote:I think we should just let chun handle the Chinese department.
lol but I''m not chinese. can''t use chinese.
? ?? ? ??? ?? ? ??
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 06:51
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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paul wrote:the colonial standard army should be 3 steppe rider 2 chukonu
china age 2 cav is weak, and can also train 2 in a batch which makes them weaker.
http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Zamburak

he rof 1.5
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 05:49
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Japanese Discussion Thread
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japanese are op .because he have toshogu shrine and shrine (nerf toshogu shrine and shrine). nerf Golden Pavilion. he have Daimyo(general)can train units and shipment . but other civ don't have general. they have more shrine20 down to 10shrine. and nerf yumi have high damage can kill cavalry. and th...
by สยาม
02 Nov 2015, 02:46
Forum: ESOC Civilizations Discussion
Topic: Chinese Discussion Thread
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China need buff keshik for anti cavalry (he have 8*3 = 24 damage for anticavalry but he have 12xp but Zamburak have 15*3.5 = 52.5 damage he have 12xp ) China need buff start age2 at faster than 5.00 min. slow age = can rush counter. most people say china op. they don't play china often. and player p...

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