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by Inst
21 Oct 2020, 00:23
Forum: General
Topic: Temple of heaven buff?
Replies: 9
Views: 566
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Re: Temple of heaven buff?

It's possibly better than Porcelain Tower depending on villager gather rate upgrades, but Porcelain Tower is a building and keeps on working until someone destroys it. ToH villagers, on the other hand, can be forced into villages or otherwise killed much more easily than the Porcelain Tower.
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 22:57
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Inca build orders
Replies: 85
Views: 5380
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Re: Inca build orders

Garja lost to kynesie and suicided grens into the fortress - so he is a liiiiiiiiittle bit biased right now but he is right in general I think, heavy turtling does not fir the style of AOE3 and is super lame, annoying and boring. Turtling never been a thing in aoe3 because of it's just never been v...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 22:06
Forum: General
Topic: Temple of heaven buff?
Replies: 9
Views: 566
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Re: Temple of heaven buff?

White Pagoda is still a better choice if you want to play monks, especially since White Pagoda is a subtle econ boost by giving you easy access to all hard land treasures on the map. The only advantage of Temple of Heaven would be if you intend to send out a Steppe Rider or Rattan Shield shipment AS...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 22:00
Forum: General
Topic: Japan vs Caroleans
Replies: 63
Views: 2247
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Re: Japan vs Caroleans

Can't Caroleans step-fire vs Ashis, i.e, they advance in melee mode, but they switch to ranged mode once they get in close, let off a salvo, and then go back to melee? It's actually closer to 42 vs 35 Carols vs Ashis. The Carols drop quickly as you close in, but by the 5th salvo you should have 20 C...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 08:05
Forum: General
Topic: Japan vs Caroleans
Replies: 63
Views: 2247
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Re: Japan vs Caroleans

The melee attack of your musks is really not the stat you care about in regards to their performance against heavy infantry. The melee resist and high base hp meaning they tank for a while is all that's relevant practically. When you have 30 ashi vs 35 caroleans or whatever you don't care that your...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 07:39
Forum: General
Topic: Japan vs Caroleans
Replies: 63
Views: 2247
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Re: Japan vs Caroleans

just kite with ashis lol Ashis have 4.5 speed and are worth roughly 4/7s a Carolean for cost in melee. With Golden Pavillon speed bonuses, Ashi have about 4.75 speed, while Caroleans in melee have 5.25 speed, so they'll get caught up in about 12 seconds. That said, in the 12 seconds Ashis should be...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 07:31
Forum: General
Topic: Japan vs Caroleans
Replies: 63
Views: 2247
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Japan vs Caroleans

What does Japan do vs Caroleans? Here's the problem. Japanese Yumi are relatively weak archers that depend on their range and ability to kite. They have no true skirmisher class unit either. The alternative for Japan is to depend on Ashigaru, but Ashigaru are designed with gimped melee attacks to co...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 07:19
Forum: General
Topic: Remove coin and berrys upgrades of torp...
Replies: 37
Views: 1656
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Re: Remove coin and berrys upgrades of torp...

When are we going to turn Sweden into a meme? https://djmag.com/sites/default/files/styles/djmag_landscape__691x372_/public/article/image/Frida-Abba-22.jpg?itok=A4q9lnrP I mean, for historians and lover of military history, the mighty Swedish army is not a joke. But for the average person, the idea ...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 05:33
Forum: General
Topic: Swedes early DE balance
Replies: 95
Views: 5023
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Re: Swedes early DE balance

urumi might struggle a bit once caroleans have the range resist on them- you may wish to try out Jaguar Prowl Knights as a counter, especially mixed with mace. Those should take em down really well Which is still a problem, because it looks like 4:3 cost Caroleans can hold off JPKs. === Imo, I'm al...
by Inst
20 Oct 2020, 04:22
Forum: General
Topic: Swedes early DE balance
Replies: 95
Views: 5023
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Re: Swedes early DE balance

There's only one melee unit that Caroleans can be expected to fall apart to, and that's the Urumi. But funny thing is, it seems as though Urumi don't "hard" counter Caroleans because Caroleans perform relatively well, at least in comparison to other musks, against Urumi. That needs some ha...
by Inst
19 Oct 2020, 19:21
Forum: General
Topic: Swedes early DE balance
Replies: 95
Views: 5023
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Re: Swedes early DE balance

I actually rechecked, I notice where my math went wrong. Caroleans are only 2000 DPS * HP vs heavy infantry, not 2500 or so because I miscalculated the bonuses (Caroleans get 1.25x damage vs heavy infantry, and .8x damage vs infantry, so it's 100% damage vs heavy infantry and 80% damage vs infantry)...
by Inst
18 Oct 2020, 20:39
Forum: General
Topic: Swedes early DE balance
Replies: 95
Views: 5023
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Re: Swedes early DE balance

Question: Caroleans-> 146.66666666666666666666666666667 VS cost vs 141.667 VS cost for basic musketeers same health, 10% more melee resistance (30% vs 20%) 16.67 DPS vs heavy infantry (not considering melee), 13.33 DPS vs cavalry in melee. Hussars are 4480 DPS * HP vs Caroleans. They're about 293.33...
by Inst
18 Oct 2020, 19:05
Forum: General
Topic: Grenadiers are Overrated
Replies: 19
Views: 1402
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Re: Grenadiers are Overrated

Why don't you try to test them in combined arms; i.e, you mix musketeers with grenadiers and then have them face an equivalent vs worth of grenadiers? Alternatively, mass hussars and grenadiers together and have them face musketeers. With grenadiers, they have glaring vulnerabilities (terrible in me...
by Inst
18 Oct 2020, 18:16
Forum: General
Topic: China vs Sweden
Replies: 13
Views: 824
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Re: China vs Sweden

[mention]u8305[/mention] If you have a problem with Carolean melee and you're Fortress, just get Forbidden or Imperial Army. Caroleans don't have bonuses against cavalry in melee, only in ranged, and what's more, Iron Flails and Meteor Hammers get completely absurd ranged resistance when upgraded wi...
by Inst
18 Oct 2020, 15:44
Forum: General
Topic: The chinese version DE is a disaster
Replies: 12
Views: 825
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Re: The chinese version DE is a disaster

Yeah...Indian Brahmin monks riding elephants and killing animals and enemy units is so inaccurate. Brahmins aren't supposed to kill anyone. Naming them Gosvami Tulsidas (a great saint), Ramanujan (a great ancient mathematician), that is height of inaccuracy. It was hard to get used to the whole ide...
by Inst
18 Oct 2020, 15:30
Forum: General
Topic: Changes you don't like in DE
Replies: 21
Views: 1515
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Changes you don't like in DE

#1: Flamethrowers disciplined, honored, and exalted upgrades nerfed. That was part of the flamethrower design. The greater bonuses to the flamethrower on upgrade had the following effects: -Flamethrowers in Colonial could now be very weak. If you look at the completely exorbitant disciplined upgrade...
by Inst
18 Oct 2020, 15:22
Forum: General
Topic: China vs Sweden
Replies: 13
Views: 824
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Re: China vs Sweden

How is Standard Army working for you? And tried the new flamethrowers yet?
by Inst
14 Oct 2020, 02:29
Forum: General
Topic: Bayonet Charge
Replies: 16
Views: 1248
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Re: Bayonet Charge

Im aware about the melee resist on musks and more notably, units like rodeleros and samurai, which is why used the term "raw dps" which meant simply damage output. Since most units have ranged armour its often quite desirable to get into melee if you have the chance- not that this is comm...
by Inst
14 Oct 2020, 02:22
Forum: General
Topic: Bayonet Charge
Replies: 16
Views: 1248
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Re: Bayonet Charge

All musketeer units (i can think of) except ashigaru do more raw dps in melee than at range, which is an unusual quirk of the unit type. The same is true of a few other units: off the top of my head yojimbo and howdah are much better in melee than at range as well. Its an interesting dynamic of nee...
by Inst
14 Oct 2020, 02:06
Forum: General
Topic: Bayonet Charge
Replies: 16
Views: 1248
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Re: Bayonet Charge

AOE2, as its predecessor, has interesting tricks like onager dodging and cavalry archer micro. AoE3 definitely has interesting micro tricks, e.g., the "pull trick", swapping into cover mode to tank, etc. For AOE3, a complaint I have is that muskets, historically, were used decisively as p...
by Inst
14 Oct 2020, 01:39
Forum: General
Topic: Bayonet Charge
Replies: 16
Views: 1248
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Re: Bayonet Charge

AOE2, as its predecessor, has interesting tricks like onager dodging and cavalry archer micro. AoE3 definitely has interesting micro tricks, e.g., the "pull trick", swapping into cover mode to tank, etc. For AOE3, a complaint I have is that muskets, historically, were used decisively as p...
by Inst
14 Oct 2020, 01:23
Forum: General
Topic: Bayonet Charge
Replies: 16
Views: 1248
Flag: United States of America

Bayonet Charge

One issue I've had with AOE3 is that it's been too "straightforward" in terms of how units are deployed and microed, in comparison to other games like AOE2 and Warcraft 3. AOE2, as its predecessor, has interesting tricks like onager dodging and cavalry archer micro. For AOE3, a complaint I...
by Inst
23 Feb 2019, 20:01
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Flamethrowers 2: Briefer Comments (Also notes on Black Flag Army and Mongolian Army)
Replies: 3
Views: 440
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Re: Flamethrowers 2: Briefer Comments (Also notes on Black Flag Army and Mongolian Army)

Thing is, if you do it in world edit, it turns out that the same cost of flamethrowers loses to the same cost of musketeers, even if musketeers don't use melee. That's how bad flamethrowers are.
by Inst
14 Feb 2019, 10:59
Forum: Strategy
Topic: Flamethrowers 2: Briefer Comments (Also notes on Black Flag Army and Mongolian Army)
Replies: 3
Views: 440
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Flamethrowers 2: Briefer Comments (Also notes on Black Flag Army and Mongolian Army)

Flamethrowers are actually the linchpin of China in colonial. Flamers change China from terrible to decent in Colonial. Here are some newer notes on how flamethrowers work. Flamethrowers: -Flamethrowers are short-ranged, anti-infantry, anti-building infantry units that are built from a castle. They ...

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