I'm just glad you stuck to a unique change over some standardized crap. Seems to fit civ design well focusing on civs extra range gimmick.

^ Does this make them more "fun" to play?

EAGLEMUT wrote:

iCourt wrote:Abus breaks the guard upgrade consistency and it's hardly ever brought up.

That inconsistency is fixed on EP.

Ah that's right it's +1 range for vet and guard for EP. So still inconsistent, just in a different form.

Abus breaks the guard upgrade consistency and it's hardly ever brought up. If anything the TAD and TWC expansions really glorified the whole very inconsistent pricing on age 3 and age 4 techs and it's always been argued as a civ bonus or what not. (And that's a fine argument to make before I get a b...

As stated in list ESOC won't be adding hotkeys to keep compatibility with RE.

try this site, lots of usefull and precise info there. http://web.archive.org/web/20100711102801/http://www.hanson-family.ws/aoe3/tad102/units.html old and dead original link, but still on web archive. Ah! I'll remake this all for you. I used to have a PDF of this. This was by far the best and easi...

Eh I just give up, it's pointless anyway as people aren't able to micro at all, can't expect them to appreciate a cool unit Nah it's a cool unique unit. Just way more situational now. Not as versatile as a skirm. Kinda like a less effective abus which it sort of is. I'm not against the change to Ca...

Read the entire thread.

One half is no changes. Other half seems to be for some sort of eco boost.

Neither in my opinion help with the OP question on how to make the civ more "fun".

Hmm seems consensus is to give ports another eco boost in the form of free upgrades or pseudo villager cards. Not sure how that makes them more fun to play? Seems like an ugly way to standardize the civ. EDIT: Also ports are fine most likely from a balance perspective. They probably don't need any e...

iNcog wrote:Seems better to send 700c and age to get auto-veteran goons than to send the early goon card.

Not suggesting it isn't. I'm not sure why people saying they need goons age 2 when there is already a card they can send for goons to be made in age 2.

Ports already have access to them age 2 via card.

It's always been a possible first shipment age 1, but usually sets you back cause opponent can easily deck check.

French explorer card still has the manual ability.

Just one thought, while I agree that Ports ain't very interesting atm, a significant design change such as affecting their age2 unit comp drastically or adding completely new cards or mechanics would be similar to adding eco teepees to Sioux back in the day. A change that is now supposed to be reve...

This would also introduce interesting(?) water plays, buffing ship hp? Honestly teepee could effect boats already? I honestly have never really gone water cause Sioux is so beyond trash on it. I think I have only ever gone boats vs France and Germany, knowing they probably aren't gonna make any boa...

Gujarati Gunpowder(II) Muskets have +2 range. Not sure how to implement the range upgrade wether it should be on a card or tech upgrade, but I like the better range for units cause it plays into the Portuguese extra range gimmick. Honestly if you want to make them more fun to play, boost their gimm...

Teepee Aura was the biggest break in civ design EP has created. My opinion on how a Teepee should work: Teepees original text string says that nearby unit HP is increased. I always took that to mean ALL units including boats and villagers. Now the argument I have heard is it would make villagers un-...

Gujarati Gunpowder(II) Muskets have +2 range. Not sure how to implement the range upgrade wether it should be on a card or tech upgrade, but I like the better range for units cause it plays into the Portuguese extra range gimmick. Honestly if you want to make them more fun to play, boost their gimm...

Seems like standardizing. Send a vill card or a pseudo vill (trickle) card first.

Let's complicate the game even more!

Zutazuta wrote:Revert back to 1.01a?

You would like that wouldn't you ya jap lamer

It's cause they were available age 1 with ottos and ES nerfed them into the ground.

For a very short time you could discovery age Spy rush with Ottoman... but what could Ottoman not do at one point or another?

A 125 cost unit shouldn't cost 2 pop given its extremely specialized nature.

So we are making Mac FP 1.3 changes now. Cool!

Hmm, having some trouble adding the revolt music to a modified map I am working on. Anyone got an idea on how to make the trigger work?

What lol...