Esoc Team? Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs. German creams Japan because of fast age as far as I know (pros plz confirm). They can have skirms and vet uhlans out by the time Japan has aged up. not . germany can rush. but don't rush . germany can't win japan have best and m...

japan have best and more = op
very good Pros,very good benefit and very good property = op
everythink for japan op
but everyone think It's ok.??????????? OK????!!!!
OK = favorite japan civ = Personal feelings

Esoc Team?
Next tournament jap are 1st top than germany and evey civs.

deuxballesman wrote:Yes it is one of their civs bonus if I understand what you mean. Don't forget they also have to "waste" a shipment on cherry orchard and that a lot of their shipments are nothing special: 2v 4v 600w 600g

not, It basic. Because they eco op

zoom wrote:Nerf Japan hard?

Example
Can 2 shipment at one card.

britishmusketeer wrote:

Mimsy for President wrote:#BSMM

You shouldn't ban someone because they are arguing a point that is wrong. He believes china is too weak, which at his level, is probably true. Unlike thebritish he doesn't present his points in an obnoxious way.

Thank you for democracy.

zoom wrote:

Method_man714 wrote:Yeah, guard musks manchu changdao very weak anticav

The bias is stronk with this one.

Example
Can't build pure anti cav.
http://www.twitch.tv/aiz11/v/51615447

Yeah, guard musks manchu changdao very weak anticav The bias is stronk with this one. Cause he forgot keshiks :p but seriously with qiang, changdaos and redcoats china is ok against cav let alone mandchus. Moreover their melee cav with OP range does decently against cav too They can't build pure an...

Dont compare cassadores to muskeeter in raid. You cant raid with light inf inf cause 1 hussar kill all of your raid party. Japan got too many upgrades for units. Daimyo, combat cards, consulate, golden pavilon, shogun its just too many. Yumi Archer has too high base attack damage. Ashi has 4.5 spee...

britishmusketeer wrote:sorry but none of that makes any sense :/

np, I'm sry u. My English are bad. not u.
u maybe miss understand.

Chinese can't anti cavalry and Coyote Runner late game. old han + musks from brit consulate + disciples is more than enough anticav lategame. Coyote runners are actually terrible once you get fortress. Hi, I know. . I mean, can't anti pure cavalry or don't have card anti cavalry. Not teach me. cav ...

Chinese can't anti cavalry and Coyote Runner late game. old han + musks from brit consulate + disciples is more than enough anticav lategame. Coyote runners are actually terrible once you get fortress. Hi, I know. . I mean, can't anti pure cavalry or don't have card anti cavalry. Not teach me. cav ...

Chinese can't anti cavalry and Coyote Runner late game. old han + musks from brit consulate + disciples is more than enough anticav lategame. Coyote runners are actually terrible once you get fortress. Hi, I know. . I mean, can't anti pure cavalry or don't have card anti cavalry. Not teach me. cav ...

Actually, Forbidden Army does quite well against Hussars. The larger the scale and the more obstacles on the battlefield, the better. You should test it. Hi Zoom, If Nerf Old Han Reform, Chinese can't anti cavalry and Coyote Runner late game. u need buff vs Multipliers Cavalry and Coyote Runner for...

Nerf hard japan next patch ESOC Winter Tourney - 3rd/4th place: Diarouga vs Kynesie Chineese vs japan old han useless for vs japan (Ikko-Ikki+Ashigaru Musketeer+Yumi Archer+Naginata Rider+Yabusame+Flaming Arrow+Yamabushi+Daimyo+japan wonder) Well why are you making old han versus age 3 Japan? You s...

KINGofOsmane wrote:

Rikikipu wrote:hahaha, when i've seen this title i was sure it was a sudmakmak's topic xD

me also never saw a person as silly then him

LOL, OK, Albert Einstein , U clever lol?
I sawa I somtee gu ja ket u

zoom brings up a great balance point, as always. But how do you suggest we proceed? If yumi > old han, and old han getting nerfed, do we nerf yumi? If so, how? sure, nerf hard japan and yumi. and china cheap units late game useless don't have old han and china age 2 very bad can't beat japan early ...

leaf4 wrote:Sud you tried arguing to nerf china to, you are bad at arguing and explaining things. It may be because you dont seem to be native englsih.

Yes, Sure. My bad English.
I try good English. OMG

If h2o(play china) vs who(play japan)
If h20 lose . who better? blackstar op? who?
or because japan op

yumi can anti cavalry and everythink in game. jap eco oppppp.
I think japan. top 1 civs than germany. bye logic

and _H2O vs LordRaphael final

Nerf hard japan next patch

ESOC Winter Tourney - 3rd/4th place: Diarouga vs Kynesie

Chineese vs japan

old han useless for vs japan (Ikko-Ikki+Ashigaru Musketeer+Yumi Archer+Naginata Rider+Yabusame+Flaming Arrow+Yamabushi+Daimyo+japan wonder)

We are looking at slight nerfs to Chinese Fortress Age play and a significant nerf to Old Han Reforms, currently. Imperial Meteor Hammers are being buffed, however. Yes, I understand. but If Chinese players can't ff. because they rush hard or cavalry at age2 Chinese players can't age 3 or age 3 but...

We are looking at slight nerfs to Chinese Fortress Age play and a significant nerf to Old Han Reforms, currently. Imperial Meteor Hammers are being buffed, however. Yes, I understand. but If Chinese players can't ff. because they rush hard or cavalry at age2 Chinese players can't age 3 or age 3 but...