Russia vs otto is chanceless. The moment you realise that you can''t micro with russian units, that moment you will not win even if you play like a god. Russia vs Otto was 0-100. I''m sure it is still 0-100 on FP too. if otto insist to play age 2 it''s 40-60 or even 50-50. abus kite strelet? why sh...

Btw a -100f start for ports means you can start with only 100f right ? Wont that prevent them from making an efficient early market/TP, since it might be hard to gather 200f and chop for a house or stuff ? Keep in mind your vills cost 80f, so you have 20f left over from that crate, and only need to...

if otto didnt age up russia have chance. but still, their early eco is shit. otto can do a lot before russia has a decent eco.

subzero wrote:

hwoarang wrote:image they would have 145hp or more, they wouldnt die to 2 tc shots anymore and this would be really game changing

Also they have two lame upgrade in age 2 which make their HP to 156 and 46 attack, omg cheat

its 78hp 23atk per pop. still a low hp unit.

sioux not that easy. their bo is simple, but you need good sense and enough experience to catch your opponent's weakness. "knowing what should i do now" is extremely important to a sioux player. you have bad eco so you can't make mistake.

but remember, abus has only 130hp. that's weak comparing to it's 2 pop and 50f 100g cost.

Port is top civ now :P They win more mu than dutch ofc. :bravo: Seriously. Villager gets 20f cheaper but mames and -100f start. And now suddenly its tier 4-->1 civ. And better than ottos? What kind of drugs you guys use? Top LEL also to Garia who ranks Ottomans TWO tiers below russia. Ye, its non t...

among the normal euro civs (brit fre ger), brit has the best potential, but they get countered by iro and otto more obviously too. so in a new meta without iro otto, brit may go beyond fre and ger. asia civs all got great buff from the nerf of iro and otto. and india seems to be the 1st winner. anyw...

india and brit i think

on poor land maps it seems to be a way.
anyway, fp is coming and port never need it anymore! take revenge upon iro and otto now!

spadel wrote:I appreciate the work all participants of the team have put in.

the changes look good, but (!!!) why on earth is wall LOS decreased?! People kept telling me I''m stupid when I built wall segments everywhere, because it''s a waste. And now you nerf it for what reason exactly?

cuz they hate you

zoom wrote:

paul wrote:really? kanya is shit. even with 15% aura they lose to hussar.

One on one, sure. Not per cost.

they are still shit per vs.

the changes are good, but iro is so weak now. iro units without cards are weak. without a tp iro has bad eco in early age 2(less vills, no steel trap), and bad units too. how can iro deal with ff/semiff and 2 cannons? or gurkha zamburak? naginata ashigaru yumi? I have 5 fp recs where I rape india a...

The only Iroquois unit that is weak without cards is the Tomahawk, and that''s barely worse than a Musketeer. Factoring in the Warchief aura it''s actually better than a Musketeer... Testing has shown Iroquois to still be competitive. That''s all I can say personally. really? kanya is shit. even wi...

the changes are good, but iro is so weak now.
iro units without cards are weak. without a tp iro has bad eco in early age 2(less vills, no steel trap), and bad units too. how can iro deal with ff/semiff and 2 cannons? or gurkha zamburak? naginata ashigaru yumi?

@jerom Do you now understand why we didn''t publish the notes before? Because people, including you, are talking about balance changes while they haven''t tested it yet. Some changes can seem small, the otto one, the port one and the dutch one but really they are balanced civs now. Do you remember ...

iro age 3 lose to india age 2.

i quicksearch with iro today, and after 70% games my opponent $%^&'*(! my mom. why? >':( yeah iro is some lame, but why don't they blame otto players? and india japan is 80% lame, why don't $%^&'*( them? anyway, when will the new fp release <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_sad.gif...

On tibet iro vs india might be fair. And you don t really want to naked ff, semi is better. i didnt ff. i age up fast, send 600w to boom tp (but only 2 tps), then 4 kanya and spam infantry. but when i see his agra and gate and gurkha i''m desperate. so i send 600g to age up (and lost my warhut). wh...

It is still lame, and it doesn t surprise since slow age up=ff or semi ff. i''ve played with india yesterday on tibet. he 10/10. wall and gurkha and i can''t rush at all. so i send 600g and age up, make forest prowler and musket rider. but got rekt by his age 2 tons of shit. even 10/10 has decent e...

pros: not a lamer anymore! fast. can reach age 3 at 6:30 with a warhut at home. hard to rush. better units. forest prowler is the best skirm unit, and can beat wall+longbow/gurkha/yumi easily. musket rider is better than euro dragoon. 5 cuirass too. give him a big surprise! cons: don't have cannon. ...

defensive, wall and gate and gurkha
if you have got some treasures you can 10/10

diarouga wrote:

hazza54321 wrote:if you cut a couple of vills you age at like 4:45

Yep, basically 20 sec later than a 10/10 with a TP etc.
On no hunt maps the 10/10 is strong tho.

ive played vs king ownage2nd and whenever he used 10/10, he can reach age 2 at 3:40. it is just unstoppable. i cant have my rax up at all.

diarouga wrote:Monitors will be nerfed in the fp.

wowow when can i see it?

no it isnt.. u give dutch enought time to get on ur resources and he has better and cheaper units in age 3 ... only thing u got is 2 falcs shipment Lmao. First brit semi is the way to play against dutch. Second idk if you read the thread or the thread title, but this is about brit vs french. you ca...