iNcog wrote:what is intra civ balance?

Actually, I should have stopped assuming that non-italian readers know "inter" and "intra" a long time ago. However, I actually did use "balance between civilizations" in the OP.

Mr. Singh did a good job at explaining it, though.

And it will be, at the next opportunity. For now, it should be tested, then tweaked.

princeofkabul wrote:no japan nerfs, dissapointed.

Keep in mind that balance is relative. There are a lot of indirect ones!

There is a poll for the xp native trickle? Because from what i have heard, majority of hight level are more against but i am prob biased by the fact than diarouga talk a lot about that :P Clearly; some people spread misinformation like a wildfire. It's obvious to me that the trickle is popular, whe...

reverts well, yes? there are less crazy changes and more useful ones here. this has to be much better than the original notes. plus you're seeing positive feedback ITT. I understand that the native xp trickle did not get reverted however that change is not unanimously bad by top players unlike some...

Great patch notes, that's quite a buff to india damn Edit: considering consulate nerf as Sompu pointed out, actually no. This normalizes Sowars back to what they were before. Which is probably a good change. India is still lackluster imo because it's too slow to deal with most Vanilla civs, especia...

good luck finding patch notes if you are not sure where to look Actually, I'd argue that it'd take a lot of (bad) luck not to find them. If you don't want to read any post, ITT, you can always use the link in my signature, or the link on ESOC. I get the impression that posters don't read other post...

It's great. Last year's made for better entertainment, though.

Oh, look at that – results edging closer and closer.

So, after 4 years, what did you decide? LOL AA with cheaper upgrades and wagon? "Cavalry Cuirass" improvement cost reduced to 300c (from 100w, 300c) "Incendiary Grenades" improvement cost reduced to 250w, 250c (from 400w, 300c) "Infantry Breastplate" improvement cost r...

I like it. Potential concerns: 1) native xp trickle could be too high 2) no revert of the TP/TC radius obstruction 3) 2 WH age up might over-buff the aztec FI? Or even general contain. I'm glad ATP is getting nerfed. I hope ESOC maps feature 3-max TPs. I'm dissapointed new ESOC maps feature 4+ TPs....

it seems to me india is nerfed once more, most of the MU's where you don't make mahouts into HI Arguably. Both camel units are buffed, significantly, and the Mahout Lancer is buffed, situationally. I was considering starting at 2.0 and 1.6 infantry multipliers, for the Sowar and Mahout Lancer, resp...

somppukunkku wrote:stage maps are gettingh out of cuntrol

As are the Thars of the world; Fraser River enhances the map-pool bias further. I guess it just wouldn't be EP otherwise.

Other than some resource spawn tuning, these maps do look really good, though.

Buffing generic shipments strictly for variety and viability is the sort of thing I might've been considering by now, if we weren't a decade behind schedule. I try to make exceptions where balance warrants, though. I will say that this particular suggestion seems strange to me; isn't Dutch one of th...

So wait, are Sowar really good now? they have like 5hp more than normal sowars before brit cons nerf. assuming both consus are set to brit. with ep logic now they've gone from the worst to the best monsster cav in the game. i'm dissapointed for the millionth time in a row that spain does not get en...

richard wrote:10 Halberdier shipment -- nice new option to lose the game as russia.

That's the plan! Would 11 be an even better option to lose the game?

Why not nerf Musket Rider range resist??? They are by far the strongest goon of the strongest ff civ... Repeating myself, from elsewhere, the reason is that nerfing Iroquois cavalry would make it unviable even earlier. The Musket Rider is one of the strongest light cavalry units in early Fortress—y...

These changes look good. Thank you [mention]u547[/mention] for listening to our feedback. The Sowar change is an interesting one that will probably need more tweaking in the long run, but I don't expect it to cause many issues in EPL2. On a sidenote, what about the Dutch flag change :D I really try...

Mitoe wrote:So wait, are Sowar really good now?

On the beta, really, really good – yes!

iwillspankyou wrote:

zoom wrote:IDK, you just post a lot.

much lesser than you though (I guess your post are all good though, sweeny )

You know you're sharp!

IDK, you just post a lot.

Mitoe wrote:

zoom wrote:

Mitoe wrote:That's probably best. 5% was colossal

5pp is 1/5 of the current extent of the bonus. In my estimate, 2pp is comparable to +1 Rodelero attack.

Ok what does pp even stand for

Percentage points?

Correct—my bad!

Mitoe wrote:That's probably best. 5% was colossal

5pp is 1/5 of the current extent of the bonus. In my estimate, 2pp is comparable to +1 Rodelero attack.

Mitoe wrote:Spain will be a top civ with the 70% xp, for sure.

Balance must be great, if that's the case! Due to my shameless caving in to popular demand, I will be undoing the revert of the Rodelero attack buff, though, which means I'll also be tweaking the shipment bonus buff from 5pp to 3pp.

I'd love "INFINITE 8 Rodeleros". Unfortunately, one of many things I learned during the development of EP7 is that currently good AoE3 players live in a state of terror towards infinite shipments, which is interesting, considering the many cases of them being viable without being overpowe...