To be fair I think the unit overall is fine. They are not the best on their own. But they complement other units really well. Rod/lancer for example is a really scary combo right now. Most civs won't even use musketeers after age 3 anyway and the ones that rely on HI as anti cav will still have to ...

To be fair I think the unit overall is fine. They are not the best on their own. But they complement other units really well. Rod/lancer for example is a really scary combo right now. Most civs won't even use musketeers after age 3 anyway and the ones that rely on HI as anti cav will still have to d...

I think that having the ability to train envoys is more than enough. An envoy is like what? 50 food? ... i'm sure any civ would be more than happy to spend 50 food on a scouting unit. As a primary French player, hell, i'd pay 100 wood for another scout every game, that option just isn't available. ...

I hate Sioux so much, I decided to never leave my base and just go for South Africa Revolution. I even sent 7 sheep age 1 and found a 3 sheep treasure. Just watch the this on x3 speed if you are going to open it. Interesting stuff. I guess u can just stay in base and be as greedy as possible. But y...

I like the idea.
I always found weird that rods were classed as anticav as historically they were dismissed because they would do really bad against cav.

Most civs still outscale france on the mid game.. i also ran into this but my conclusion was that I suck, not that france is weak midgame. Quite on the contrary, as they are harder to raid and enjoy a defensive advantage over other civs. Not really. France usually has to take the initiative most ma...

12/10 is strong, but is not unbeatable Most civs still outscale france on the mid game. Right now france has a far better chance to win match ups that used to be very one sided before like it was the case with france vs Germany or even vs russia(even though ppl consider russia weak i have rarely see...

Dragbox native tp and traderout work really well.
U just need to make sure you are selecting the tp on the traderout first then the native one.
If you do the other way around it won't work

dutchdude117 wrote:Since Dutch is primarily a reactive Civ, I decided to make a flow chart to help me decide what build order to do.
It is incomplete and still being improved, but it can mostly get you to fortress age every game.
Dutch Flow Chart

This is really good stuff. Great resource to learn dutch.

lakota is just, well they are lame, in both early and late game scenarios, they have essentially no siege ability, except the old dog box stuff. idk how to fix the faction in a way that makes them useful in the late game while still making them fun to play against. tbh just remove siege dance and g...

lakota is just, well they are lame, in both early and late game scenarios, they have essentially no siege ability, except the old dog box stuff. idk how to fix the faction in a way that makes them useful in the late game while still making them fun to play against. tbh just remove siege dance and g...

France is fine right now as it is. Its not like 12/10 is unbeatable and it gives france a better chance against civs like Germany for example as you can actually take the initiative and it gives a lot more time to prepare vs rushes. Otto can age up at the same speed or even and they have stronger un...

That would be mine

There is a card that increases halb speed on age 3.
What about moving it to age 2?
I guess there is still the problem of having to send a whole shipment just for that, but if dutch is forced into long colonial fights that could help i guess.

I really liked deccan, as spain I could 12/10 with 2 tps and hit the enemy base with canon at 7min, but it was a bit of an imbalanced map i think as it would highly favour some civs over the other.

FF, mass and z move.
I have only played one rated game with china on DE and it was against Japan.
My early game and my macro was awful as I have got a lot of idle time due to my innexperience with the civ yet I still had 2x his army when I attacked.

Idk about ports, but in my opinion if you are having to send cm as dutch u are already in a pretty horrible position.

Is central plains map bugged?
Me and my friends were playing there a few times and we noticed that we can't upgrade the trade rout for some reason.

Hell yeah!
I have just started learning Dutch a few weeks ago, this will really help

I would go for Lakota.
Its not that they are op, they are just the most annoying civ you could possibly make on a rts game. From age 1 with their explorer all the way up to imperial, that civ feels like it's designed for trolling.

Would it be reasonable to add the antiherd(backherd) mechanics? Even though maps start with a lot more resources now, sometimes the second and third hunts will spawn just far enough that it will backherd when is just a few shots of getting under the tc. No because then (theoretically) you could ste...

Would it be reasonable to add the antiherd(backherd) mechanics?
Even though maps start with a lot more resources now, sometimes the second and third hunts will spawn just far enough that it will backherd when is just a few shots of getting under the tc.

These are really great advices. My early game macro has improved a lot lately and I can mostly get my age ups on time. The thing that is making me loosing loads of games lately is now managing my mid game, more specifically when you have to transition from your base to resources out on the map. This...

I would probably even pay to have a DE version of this guide!
That was such a great work from goodspeed.

Yes, the game has bugs and issues but there is a full team working behind it and releasing weekly updates to improve the game quality, just be patient and give it time. Regarding balance issues it is what it is, even on EP, and I am afraid there is only much you can do in terms or balance due to the...