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by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 15:13
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Diamond market
Replies: 37
Views: 312
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Re: Diamond market

But theres literally nothing stopping a company from selling lab diamonds as if they are real diamonds. So why does the difference matter if there basically is no difference?
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 11:24
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
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Re: Mathematical problem

somppukunkku wrote:
musketeer925 wrote:I'm a little behind, but

Image

top line: 50 + interest on 50
bottom line: start w/ zero and gather at 0.64

the interest is always better with these numbers. With different interest rate and cost, you could see they might intersect, making gathering a good investment for .....
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 02:04
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
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Re: Mathematical problem

somppukunkku wrote:Now the problem is: How to write a math function to determine the outcome? With different constraints of t.

If you fix t it turns into a linear function I think.
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 02:03
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
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Re: Mathematical problem

somppukunkku wrote:Yea. I get the point. 10k res at 70 mins is basically same as 10k res at 90 mins ingame.

However, what if we assume that t<300 and the game ends there?

We find profit = N ( (92-50) 1.007^t - 93 )
So if t is small, its not profitable to make boats. Otherwise you should make as many .....
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 01:47
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

No boats then.

Exponential increase is insane. Its probably not accurate for aoe3. In terms of aoe3 equivalents, you assume that our resources will eventually lead to a 10000 vill economy.
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 01:29
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

musketeer925 wrote:I think with that change it's going to be "as many workers as possible", but I'm not sure yet.

In that case the number of days is constant and independent of the number of workers. If you refer to my calculation, that means we find a linear relation of profit = N * (some .....
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 01:24
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

musketeer925 wrote:@momuuu yeah I got a similar thing. I think the problem is that we need to calculate the value of the wine on the 14062th day, regardless of many days you take to gather it.

If we get done on the fourth day, we should be allowed to collect interest on it for the remaining 14062th .....
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 01:23
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

Aaaah, I get it. The problem with the exponential 1.007 is that profit is maximized if you play the game as long as possible. In other words, playing the game for an hour while fishing with one boat is more 'profitable' than playing for five minutes with 50 boats. After all, we're assuming in this m .....

by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 01:12
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

@somppukunkku you may have converted to problem from aoe to mathematics incorrectly. It turns out that in the way you explained it the value of your 9000 bottles is maximized by taking as long as possible. It turns out that this summation of 1.007^1+1.007^2+... Blows the fuck up if you take very lon .....

by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 01:03
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

I think I solved it

The solution seems to be that you should let your workers slack off.
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 00:32
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

So we want to maximize the function
F = sum from n = 1 to number of days taken (number of workers * 0.64 * 1.007^n) - number of workers * 50 * 1.007^(number of days taken)

So then we want to maximize this function.. hmm
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 00:27
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

Ow, I see the problem now.
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 00:26
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Mathematical problem

Wait, if I understood this right you will make 9000 bottles, and a bottle's value is 1*1.07^(number of days since it was produced).

If that is right, then the answer is that you hire one worker.
by momuuu
27 Jan 2019, 00:19
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Mathematical problem
Replies: 62
Views: 524
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Re: Mathematical problem

I dont get what the last paragraph means. What increases in value??
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 21:40
Forum: General
Topic: Smackdown #4 Double Shipments
Replies: 90
Views: 2889
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Re: Smackdown #4 Double Shipments

If everything seems OP, nothing is OP right?
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 21:38
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration
Replies: 66
Views: 639
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Re: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration

Goodspeed wrote:
If you read closely I don't think I'm saying that a hard coded AI would be better. I'm saying that strategically this AI was lackluster.
Yes and I disagree. Is that really so hard to believe? I mean it wasn't Sun Tzu reincarnate but I think its understanding of strategic concepts was .....
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 21:25
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration
Replies: 66
Views: 639
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Re: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration

Did the AI do a good job at understanding the counter system and basic build order or did it do worse at that than what humans can code into the AI? It did worse than what humans can do.
Is the AI in that sense not a leap forward? It is not a leap forward.
Did this demonstration show anything special .....

by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 21:13
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration
Replies: 66
Views: 639
Flag: Netherlands

Re: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration

Goodspeed wrote:
If you read closely I don't think I'm saying that a hard coded AI would be better. I'm saying that strategically this AI was lackluster.
Yes and I disagree. Is that really so hard to believe? I mean it wasn't Sun Tzu reincarnate but I think its understanding of strategic concepts was .....
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 16:28
Forum: General
Topic: Question regarding players
Replies: 2
Views: 92
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Re: Question regarding players

It doesn't. Not even close.
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 15:56
Forum: News
Topic: Age of Empires 3 LAN Tournament Announced!
Replies: 64
Views: 3926
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Re: Age of Empires 3 LAN Tournament Announced!

Where can we sign up for the drunk aoe3 tournament?
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 15:41
Forum: ESOC Patch Discussion
Topic: EP 6.1.x Beta [RELEASED-LIVE]
Replies: 316
Views: 8530
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Re: EP 6.0.x Beta [2018-12-19]

zoom wrote:
Garja wrote:And so was the manor build time.
Besides, do we even need fast age change when all fast age civs are nerfed and slow aging civs are already better?
We definitely do not need it. It's just highly desirable. It's bad for the game when only one option, among many, is viable.

This ne .....
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 14:26
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration
Replies: 66
Views: 639
Flag: Netherlands

Re: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration

Goodspeed wrote:Or maybe I just don't agree with what you're saying. Seem possible? For example you said you might be better off hard coding strategic concepts. I don't think you'd get anywhere near the performance of A* doing that.
Feel free to elaborate if you think your point didn't come across.

mo .....
by momuuu
26 Jan 2019, 12:26
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: Diamond market
Replies: 37
Views: 312
Flag: Netherlands

Re: Diamond market

What is the production capability of lab diamonds? That seems a relevant thing to figure out first.

If they can just produce diamonds like it's nothing, then I think this just proves capitalism doesn't work. People have been willing to pay that much for diamonds, so why wouldn't they keep paying that .....

by momuuu
25 Jan 2019, 23:52
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration
Replies: 66
Views: 639
Flag: Netherlands

Re: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration

You really should learn to read better. Every word in a sentence has a purpose. When your disagreement comes from blatantly ignoring parts of a sentence or entire sentences, you just failed to read.
by momuuu
25 Jan 2019, 21:07
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration
Replies: 66
Views: 639
Flag: Netherlands

Re: SC2 Deepmind Demonstration

Goodspeed wrote:I just don't think your comparison between a machine learning algorithm and a bunch of if-else statements is relevant, especially considering the point of this research. I also don't agree with your notion that you'd be better off hard coding strategic concepts; A* showed significant .....

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