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by Goodspeed
12 Oct 2019, 10:34
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

Game over We win by resignation https://i.imgur.com/zaUwldz.png Black made a final effort to escape but found no way out. He then resigned. Here's the final position with some markings to clarify things: - Our territory is marked with X - Black territory is marked with O (this includes dead stones,...
by Goodspeed
12 Oct 2019, 08:24
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

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Black (1) didn't seem very good, because it gave us time to fix our weakness with (4). Now, I really don't see a way out for him. He isn't any closer to making life locally, either.
by Goodspeed
12 Oct 2019, 08:15
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/Oflhp4T.png Black played one more forcing move at (1), which we don't quite see the point of, then split our left side groups with (3). Perhaps his plan now is to isolate and attack our marked group in the middle by cutting at A at some point, but this seems completely unrealist...
by Goodspeed
12 Oct 2019, 08:03
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/yVkK0yj.png But where is black running to? At this point, he's banking on creating enough weaknesses in the white position so that he can turn around and attack us. They do say offense is the best defense, and this rings quite true in Go as well. We played (4) instead of cutting...
by Goodspeed
12 Oct 2019, 07:54
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

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Some fighting moves. We end up being forced (I think) to connect our groups with (10), but we did take away all of black's possible ways to make a living group locally. He has to run again.
by Goodspeed
11 Oct 2019, 22:37
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/1Y6EyeS.png Black did play the move we expected, but we found a good answer in (2). We are connected now, and black has no way to connect his two weak groups. As predicted, our attack on black's G15 group has weakened the position of his M16 group, which now has nowhere to run. ...
by Goodspeed
11 Oct 2019, 17:45
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/70BZm96.png Black indeed cut our stones off from each other with (3) and (5). Our (6) attempts to connect by going around black's stones, but black A is looking scary. If we lose our K16 group, it's probably game over. If we can save it, we're looking good. Now, we need to use o...
by Goodspeed
11 Oct 2019, 17:39
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/qfBnuP0.png Scary stuff. Black found a good sequence in order to cut our top left group off from the marked stones. We had to protect our top left group because it, too, wasn't looking too healthy. Now it is, after effectively capturing (1), but with (3) black is isolating the m...
by Goodspeed
11 Oct 2019, 16:52
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/oyk5clJ.png Black (1) runs towards open space while threatening to connect to his top right group. But how open is that space, really? Where are black's nearest friends? Now we see why our marked moves on the right were so useful. They not only reduced black's territory, they al...
by Goodspeed
11 Oct 2019, 16:45
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/VEfCCIi.png Black poked at our weakness at A, we protected it with (2). With forcing moves like this, black is trying to build strength for his G15 group. We have to carefully keep cutting off his escape routes and make sure he doesn't make life locally. Carefully, because we do...
by Goodspeed
11 Oct 2019, 16:37
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/psbCAQZ.png Black made an unexpected move at (1). It's big, to be sure, but it gave us the opportunity to significantly reduce black's lower right territory while building our own center potential with (2) through (7). Now, we attack the black G15 group with (8). I hope we can e...
by Goodspeed
11 Oct 2019, 15:47
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/LDRNIVo.png We went with B. Now, we'll see if black spends another move trying to save his G15 group or protects the weakness we just poked at. In the former case, we will probably play at P10 and do serious damage to black's lower right corner. In the latter case, we'll attack ...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 17:36
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
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Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/rZPQ8hX.png Okay, here we go... Black is running. He is not quite ready to let go of his G15 stone, and by playing at (1) he is saying "come at me". Where are his friends though? The M16 group? No, it's very easy for us to keep the two groups split, and if we get some ...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 17:01
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/zdSA7VU.png Black turns at (1). We are okay with this, because it allows us to block at (2) which does 2 things: - Blocks black's entry to the center of the board. - Puts pressure on black's lonely G15 stone. It's likely black is giving up the G15 stone at this point. If he isn'...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 16:48
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/gqhmCsh.png At this point, our opponent plays at (1). We hate this, because we've been wanting to play there for a while now, but we are not convinced the timing is good. Black is leaving some moves unplayed that we think should be played, though we may be wrong. It's important ...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 16:35
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/O0rBTM2.png Interestingly, black played at (1) instead of A. He sees our top potential and wastes no time reducing it. We aren't happy about this, although we are wondering what black will do after our move at (2). We kept our top left group strong this way, and black can't atta...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 16:26
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/QoqbGhW.png As expected, black defended his base. We then extended at (2) to make sure the Q13 stone remains dead and our stones connected. Black A seems likely now, since it would be painful for us not to respond to it (black would come around at N12), and it expands black's bo...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 16:19
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/5O3SowN.png Black indeed came back to defend his Q16 stone, and we played at (2) to connect our stones. We now have one corner, at least. Black's Q16 group is still quite weak after that, so he played at (3) to create some more space for himself. We played at (4) to secure our o...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 16:12
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/jZQHzEj.png We expected black to defend his corner with a move like A, but he pushed at (1) instead. We should've expected this move. It threatens to save his Q13 stone and cut off our Q12 group from the other white stones, so it's painful if we don't respond to it. However, we ...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 10:27
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

In chess there is definitely a first move advantage since black doesn't get compensated at all for moving second. At the pro level, black is often happy with a draw.
It would be the same in go if not for the 6.5 bonus points
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 09:56
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

Black does go first but white typically gets 6.5 bonus points as compensation (the .5 is to prevent ties). And the AIs actually prefer white, so...
by Goodspeed
10 Oct 2019, 08:30
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

I played Go when I was in elementary school, but there wasn’t any strategy involved. It was mostly just encircling the opponent’s stones to take them away. Of course this made no sense, since there is practically endless supply of stones in Go. As a beginner it's mostly about winning fights, yes. T...
by Goodspeed
09 Oct 2019, 20:15
Forum: Real-life Discussion
Topic: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary
Replies: 117
Views: 2223
Flag: Netherlands

Re: A full game of Go with beginner-friendly commentary

https://i.imgur.com/WqkLGL0.png It looks like we'll get our wish. Our R10 stone is going to be sacrificed and as compensation we get pressure on the top right corner and a good bit of influence towards the center. Black now has to defend at A or he will lose the marked stone. We will then take a mo...

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