Riotcoke wrote:I think you should stop asking for a buff to every dutch unit.

Technically Pikes are not a Dutch only unit

I am surprised at the amount of people opposing this. Does anyone who voted no care to share their reasoning? Much appreciated for the participation from everyone who voted! Yeah, sure. Dutch is fine. Just to be clear, this is what I think you are saying: “Dutch is fine they don’t need buff and tha...

I am surprised at the amount of people opposing this. Does anyone who voted no care to share their reasoning? Much appreciated for the participation from everyone who voted!

Can someone tell me why pike have such low line of sight (12)? it really makes no sense to me. What makes me think of this is how hard it is to siege shrines safely with pikeman . Usually they end up getting gunned down by ashi.

Do you think Dev should buff line of sight on pikes?

Bump, are you still looking for more help?

I've created a fun build to use against Lakota, involving live stock and mercenaries.
6 Dutch Lakota




you can find the replay here:
viewtopic.php?f=982&t=22268&p=513900#p513900

Dutch didnt receive any buffs!

At this point I’m certain this card is going to get nerfed. Just a matter of getting it on the devs radar.

I've played this matchup a lot, and it is really not an easy matchup. Dutch can succeed but you really have to cope with the fact that you're going to be stuck in your base for a long time. A lot of the time I found myself needing to expand outside of my base with walls else my army just gets destr...

I've played this matchup a lot, and it is really not an easy matchup. Dutch can succeed but you really have to cope with the fact that you're going to be stuck in your base for a long time. A lot of the time I found myself needing to expand outside of my base with walls else my army just gets destr...

Hi I keep seeing people say that Dutch is very strong vs Lakota, and I believe them. But every time I play against a decent Lakota player, I manage to survive the early game, and when I try to leave my base, everything goes wrong. So I am looking for VODs, recordings, and advice that will help me id...

So there were a couple units compositions between the games: 1) Skull Knight + Slingers + coyote runners 2) Mass eagle runner knight, I know skirms should should counter them but they would just chew through my mass of 50 skirms One big problem I noticed with my game play is fighting when I am not a...

chris1089 wrote:Who has melee units? Who has range advantage? Which compositions are you struggling against?

Sorry let me elaborate in original post, when I get some time to calm down and watch replays

Gauix7 wrote:what kind of civ you playing mostly?

I only play dutch

I think I suck at this game, I am so frustrated. I just played 2 40 minute games vs aztec where I have a 20000 score lead vs the aztec players and I cannot end it and I just end up losing because my masses keep getting wiped over and over. I really need help though, I can never beat a good aztec pla...

It's more bm to put block houses on top of the town center radius.

Its definitely more bm to sneak villagers to other side of map to harvest resources unprotected.

I see minutemen vs villagers important for checks and balances for overly greedy builds.

So I was playing a game earlier today and I randomly tried sending minutemen since my treasures were so good I had the extra resources (I still got my banks up). I used my envoy and explorer to track his vilagers leaving his base and followed them. I pop minutemen rallied toward them, and got 2 vill...

Ive got some spicy russian games that I just uploaded. 3 Dutch - Russia being the most interesting in my opinion.
viewtopic.php?f=982&t=22268&p=513894#p513894

I was thinking of ways to buff Dutch (all I think really about :lol: ) that rewards skilled gameplay, without making them op or changing any of the matchups. This seemed like a nice quality of life change since Dutch is such a reactive civ. So there's my idea, what do you guys think? Not that any of...

You know what this thread makes me think... Dutch banks should provide population space. Name checks out. I guess lack of imagination as it's been said and these types of civs are more friendly towards new players? Seems like many people in this thread came up with nice small tweaks to make these c...

I hate Sioux so much, I decided to never leave my base and just go for South Africa Revolution.
I even sent 7 sheep age 1 and found a 3 sheep treasure.
Just watch the this on x3 speed if you are going to open it.

You know what this thread makes me think... Dutch banks should provide population space. Its actually crazy that Japan, Sweden, Inca, all have building that benefit them economically ( each building representing 1-2 vils gathering an infinite resource) while at the same time providing housing space....

Hi, I've played a few games vs Port these past couple days, and I've come across a build that I am completely stumped on how to counter. I play Dutch, so I guess I am looking for builds that Dutch can do Port goes for sheep age 1 does normal port stuff Town centers in base ... gets age 4 revolts and...

[mention]u513[/mention] maybe I'm reading this wrong but are you advocating for a TP every game? That's really only needed if you're up against super aggressive civs like Russia and need to get CM in transition. Usually it's best to save the wood crate for getting a bank in transition to 2nd. Hmm y...

Since Dutch is primarily a reactive Civ, I decided to make a flow chart to help me decide what build order to do.
It is incomplete and still being improved, but it can mostly get you to fortress age every game.
Dutch Flow Chart