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hi all,

heres the latest tweet for those who havent seen it.

"Happy New Year, Age fans! We're back from scouting.

Age of Empires IV has been out for over two months, and we can’t wait to continue this journey together! We’ve got exciting plans for January and will have more details to share soon, including plans for an upcoming patch."

I have a feeling that "exciting plans for January" and "upcoming patch" is not the same statement, i.e. patch probably out next month xD (just my guess, what do you think. H)

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they are so bad devs..

Which games actually has good devs? I usually only hear complaining about devs lol

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duckzilla wrote:Which games actually has good devs? I usually only hear complaining about devs lol

The AoE3 devs are unironically pretty good. Sure, they also leave behind a few bugs, but that's more the fault of the higher-ups pushing them to churn out new content at an astonishing rate. In the first three weeks after launch, the AoE3 devs released four patches to hotfix important bugs and one major update. It is too bad that their talent is wasted on pumping out civilizations.

Yeah I dont see why people are whining about Relic honestly. Forgotten Empires also do a good job even if I dont like their bullshit civ bullshit DLC model at the moment.

We went for 10 years of bullshit moesbar and no other support. Relic is actually taking actively good support of aoe4 and people just whine. gamerz these days are just entitled lol

iNcog wrote:Yeah I dont see why people are whining about Relic honestly. Forgotten Empires also do a good job even if I dont like their bullshit civ bullshit DLC model at the moment.

We went for 10 years of bullshit moesbar and no other support. Relic is actually taking actively good support of aoe4 and people just whine. gamerz these days are just entitled lol

Well it’s a AAA game that isn’t being supported as such. That’s where the complaints are coming from. Also people want the game to succeed and if it’s not supported appropriately it won’t. So far it’s not being supported appropriately.

duckzilla wrote:Which games actually has good devs? I usually only hear complaining about devs lol

Factorio probably have the best ever witnessed

It's actually insane, you can file a bug report and have it fixed the same day. They did weekly blogs about their development process and future plans. They released a free demo so you could try out the game before buying. They set a fair price on their game. They are incredibly committed, they game has been officially released 1.5 years ago and it still receives multiple times a month. They are actively looking in Reddit, Discord and their own forums for feedback.

I guess it helps they are indie. The developers actively play their own game, I am not sure how many hours AAA executives spend playing their own game.

iNcog wrote:Yeah I dont see why people are whining about Relic honestly.

Mostly about the lack of communication.

n0el wrote:

iNcog wrote:Yeah I dont see why people are whining about Relic honestly. Forgotten Empires also do a good job even if I dont like their bullshit civ bullshit DLC model at the moment.

We went for 10 years of bullshit moesbar and no other support. Relic is actually taking actively good support of aoe4 and people just whine. gamerz these days are just entitled lol

Well it’s a AAA game that isn’t being supported as such. That’s where the complaints are coming from. Also people want the game to succeed and if it’s not supported appropriately it won’t. So far it’s not being supported appropriately.

Well, I won't argue that I guess. It is a $60 game and there should be good, fast updates. I guess I'm just numbed from the aoe3 limbo

edeholland wrote:

duckzilla wrote:Which games actually has good devs? I usually only hear complaining about devs lol

Factorio probably have the best ever witnessed

It's actually insane, you can file a bug report and have it fixed the same day. They did weekly blogs about their development process and future plans. They released a free demo so you could try out the game before buying. They set a fair price on their game. They are incredibly committed, they game has been officially released 1.5 years ago and it still receives multiple times a month. They are actively looking in Reddit, Discord and their own forums for feedback.

I guess it helps they are indie. The developers actively play their own game, I am not sure how many hours AAA executives spend playing their own game.

It's weird, but in my experience Indie developers actually tend to offer a triple A experience, while triple A studios tend to deliver trash.

You basically get a more creative, better functioning game with better devs, for less than half the price. That's definitely the reason why I've hardly bought any games from big studios in the past years.

Riot is a good dev.

Aoe4's problem is that the engine it's built on is vastly inferior to what it should have been.
I heard that the game operates on 8Hz.... for real? I keep seeing videos pop up that show the nature of the game's mechanics and how many little and almost unnoticeable bugs it causes.
Good luck trying to fix all of that.

While they are busy with that people expect new content.. which.. suprise.. causes even more bugs