KOTOW Statistics

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Civilization statistics after Q6:
KOTOW stats q6.png
Civilization statistics after Q4:
KOTOW stats Q4.png
Civilization statistics after Q3:
KOTOW stats q3.png
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delete inca plz
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Miyawaki Sakura wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 12:21
delete inca plz
I think out of these 4 games Kynesie played at least 3.
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#buffJapan and #nerfDutch
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welp im responsible for 14% of the chinese losses, so the rate should be higher lol
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Those numbers are only good for forum gossip. With the sheer variance of the game itself and the fact that the playerbase plays far from what is theoretically optimal those numbers mean absolutely nothing for civ balance.
Second column definetely more relevant than the 5th one.
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Haudi, Lakota, and Ottomans seem to have some advantage on some european maps. Theres enough data to show some pattern. Now why those civs on Euro Maps I wonder.
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GKShaman wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 14:46
Haudi, Lakota, and Ottomans seem to have some advantage on some european maps. Theres enough data to show some pattern. Now why those civs on Euro Maps I wonder.
maybe the 3 tp choo choo train for free on england has something to do with the win rate
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Cool numbers, but they really don’t have much meaning. Does this include mirrors?

Edit: By not meaning much I mean that there is more of a story behind civs having high win rates than just balance. I think the pick rate because it’s blind pick is more telling of balance than the win rate.
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helln00 wrote:
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welp im responsible for 14% of the chinese losses, so the rate should be higher lol
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minimoult21 wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 15:01
Does this include mirrors?
Yes.
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@EAGLEMUT Who has done this Statistic? Great thing to do, for sure.
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Rohbrot wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 15:50
@EAGLEMUT Who has done this Statistic? Great thing to do, for sure.
I've put it together based on data ESOC has from parsed recorded games. Will post updates after each qualifier is finished.
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All the numbers seem to back up the consensus IMO
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EAGLEMUT wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 15:31
minimoult21 wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 15:01
Does this include mirrors?
Yes.
Is this really a good idea? Mirrors will always drag a civs win rate towards 50% while saying absolutely nothing about how strong that civ actually is. Would be interesting to see how it'd look without mirrors, especially since I think there were quite a few italy and malta mirrors, so their real win rate might be even lower
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minimoult21 wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 15:01
Cool numbers, but they really don’t have much meaning. Does this include mirrors?

Edit: By not meaning much I mean that there is more of a story behind civs having high win rates than just balance. I think the pick rate because it’s blind pick is more telling of balance than the win rate.
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minimoult21 wrote:
28 Jul 2022, 15:01
Cool numbers, but they really don’t have much meaning. Does this include mirrors?

Edit: By not meaning much I mean that there is more of a story behind civs having high win rates than just balance. I think the pick rate because it’s blind pick is more telling of balance than the win rate.
Logged in only to like this post. Great observation! Pick rate would probably reflect what players are comfortable playing or what they think it's strong. Also the data feels too little to tell the greater story.
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One thing that these stats do show which enforces the point I raised in the discord is walls are hardly a balance issue atm, rather a butthurt/playstyle disposition issue
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Updated for Q4.
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Updated for Q6.
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EAGLEMUT wrote:
07 Aug 2022, 19:41
Updated for Q6.
can we see the Q6 only?
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Thanks for the detailed statistics. That was very interesting. But I advise you to buy game gold only from reliable services. You have to find a safe and reliable website for this

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