Stream Quality

[aligator92]

First of all let me say that i'm impressed by the amount of games that have already been casted live from the round of 96/128 and 64. But sometimes the stream is unwatchable for people with slower internet. The quality that Bramboy, Tibia and H2O stream at is ok for me. It will oly buffer now and then for a few seconds and about every 15 minutes i'll have to refresh the page and miss about a minute because it will jump forward to catch up. So it's not great but I'm fine with it. Their might still be people with worse internet though.
But @Zutazuta just streams in too high quality. It will buffer every couple of seconds and will get stuck after just 1-2 minutes. There is absolutely no value in watching those because you will miss more than you actually get to see. So in the interest of people with bad internet: Please lower your stream quality so we can all enjoy the entertaining product you produce.

P.S. How do you link users? I want to make sure Zuta even reads this.

[Buckethead]

Same issue here.

I do not understand why they do not use Youtube Gaming, has quality options in all lives, everyone can watch..
If continues without quality options, I think will never reach 900+ views (tourney Spring)

[momuuu]

I feel almost as if its on twitch´s end really. Might be mistaken but I sometimes get a buffering stream with plenty of download speed to actually watch it.

[Rikikipu]

Same issue here.

I do not understand why they do not use Youtube Gaming, has quality options in all lives, everyone can watch..
If continues without quality options, I think will never reach 900+ views (tourney Spring)

Such a good idea.
But can youtube gaming live can be mentionned on the left side bar on this forum, like twitch stream ?

[thebritish]

I think streamers should transition to YT Gaming, because as @jerom said, it is probably on twitch's end.
I get buffering on streams too while my download speed is above average i think (my upload speed is zero )

[momuuu]

well I know bram for example streams at 2000 bitrate. Thats nothing, almost anyone should be able to watch that. I had someone talk to me about not being able to watch bram´s stream while easily being above the required download speed.

[thebritish]

well I know bram for example streams at 2000 bitrate. Thats nothing, almost anyone should be able to watch that. I had someone talk to me about not being able to watch bram´s stream while easily being above the required download speed.

doesnt 2000 bitrate require 6MB download speed?

[gh0st]

my download speed is quite high.. still i mostly have problems...buffering and all!! maybe some other issue...
But viewers should have an option to select the quality in which they want to watch the stream..
pretty important coz lots of streaming recently and upcomming rounds!!

[britishmusketeer]

I agree for sure. I know zuta used to stream on lower quality and only increased it because the official ageofempires channel got quality options. I personally would be very happy to watch in in a lower quality to allow more players to watch the streams even though my internet currently can more than handle the quality.

[_DB_]

yeah, its the ability to change quality options which allow more people with slower internet to watch streams

i don't know how sometimes they don't and sometimes they do get those options...

[Buckethead]

Same issue here.

I do not understand why they do not use Youtube Gaming, has quality options in all lives, everyone can watch..
If continues without quality options, I think will never reach 900+ views (tourney Spring)

Such a good idea.
But can youtube gaming live can be mentionned on the left side bar on this forum, like twitch stream ?

Yes, and it should not be too complicated, I think even i can do.

well I know bram for example streams at 2000 bitrate. Thats nothing, almost anyone should be able to watch that. I had someone talk to me about not being able to watch bram´s stream while easily being above the required download speed.

doesnt 2000 bitrate require 6MB download speed?

2000 bitrate = 2 MB
But also depends of the resolution

[_DB_]

I don't have much knowledge of bitrate, but how much bitrate it will require for smooth stream if I've 2 Mbps bandwitdh of download (200-240 kb per second)

[Buckethead]

I don't have much knowledge of bitrate, but how much bitrate it will require for smooth stream if I've 2 Mbps bandwitdh of download (200-240 kb per second)

I also do not know much, just the basics

I think you can transmit with this configs:
Resolution: 1280x720 (or something like 1366x768)
Bitrate: 1000~1200

You can go beyond that, but to not have lag i recommend this.

Edi:
Oh, 2MB Download, stream use Upload
What is the bandwitdh of upload?

[thebritish]

I don't have much knowledge of bitrate, but how much bitrate it will require for smooth stream if I've 2 Mbps bandwitdh of download (200-240 kb per second)

I also do not know much, just the basics

I think you can transmit with this configs:
Resolution: 1280x720 (or something like 1366x768)
Bitrate: 1000~1200

You can go beyond that, but to not have lag i recommend this.

Edi: Oh, 2MB Download, stream use Upload

I think he meant on much bitrate at max he can watch without buffer with 2MB download

[_DB_]

I don't have much knowledge of bitrate, but how much bitrate it will require for smooth stream if I've 2 Mbps bandwitdh of download (200-240 kb per second)

I also do not know much, just the basics

I think you can transmit with this configs:
Resolution: 1280x720 (or something like 1366x768)
Bitrate: 1000~1200

You can go beyond that, but to not have lag i recommend this.

Edi: Oh, 2MB Download, stream use Upload

I think he meant on much bitrate at max he can watch without buffer with 2MB download

Yeah! That's what I want to know

[kazama]

Idk why we don't have quality options anymore. Before i used to watch at medium quality but now the stream keeps buffering every 5-6 seconds, so i cant watch anymore.

[Buckethead]

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I don't have much knowledge of bitrate, but how much bitrate it will require for smooth stream if I've 2 Mbps bandwitdh of download (200-240 kb per second)

I also do not know much, just the basics

I think you can transmit with this configs:
Resolution: 1280x720 (or something like 1366x768)
Bitrate: 1000~1200

You can go beyond that, but to not have lag i recommend this.

Edi: Oh, 2MB Download, stream use Upload

I think he meant on much bitrate at max he can watch without buffer with 2MB download

Yeah! That's what I want to know

Sorry

I can watch the stream of Tibia smoothly with 2 MB, he stream in Full HD (1920x1080) with 2000 bitrate.
But sometimes i need to use livestreamer + VLC (Google it)

[momuuu]

2000 bitrate is not 2 MBps, its 2 mbps. Thats a difference. 2 MBps is like 16000 bitrate.

I could discuss slightly lowering the bitrate. Sir mankle stated he wanted only 1080p streams though.

[lordraphael]

2000 bitrate is not 2 MBps, its 2 mbps. Thats a difference. 2 MBps is like 16000 bitrate.

I could discuss slightly lowering the bitrate. Sir mankle stated he wanted only 1080p streams though.

streaming 1080 p is bad imo id say like 10-20 % of the potential viewers cant watcht that without buffering every few seconds

[momuuu]

Maybe we can ask the cocasters to setup a low quality stream. On maybe a second esoc channel.

[thebritish]

Stream on youtube

[Buckethead]

Maybe we can ask the cocasters to setup a low quality stream. On maybe a second esoc channel.

Use Youtube Gaming and will not need it.

I only see benefits:
New Users/Viewers
All streams are stored on youtube, not need to import of Twitch
Quality options in all lives
New video player (Twitch player sucks)
...

Could have stream in 4K, i dont care, as long as it has quality options.
Remember that not everyone can have a decent internet.

[Mr_Bramboy]

I stream at 1500 bitrate with 1080p. And to be honest, I have no idea what the hell bitrate is. But the quality seems fine for me and since you say it doesn't lag I guess it's fine.

[Hagi]

As a viewer, Twitch is a joke, really.
Buffering for no reason with horrible quality (sometimes can't see unit types).
Sometimes flawless with perfect quality.
Sorry to say, but not a serious platform.
Please move on to something more serious if you want more viewers.
Thanks

[Garja]

I stream at 1500 bitrate with 1080p. And to be honest, I have no idea what the hell bitrate is. But the quality seems fine for me and since you say it doesn't lag I guess it's fine.

Bit rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rate