Double elimination?

[giveuanxiety]

Dunno if people really discussed what everyone prefers, single or double elimination. I know you guys might be pretty set, but I think you still have time before the brackets stages start and double elimination would be much better.

Here's why: seeding will be difficult and pretty damn random, even going by elo, since some random smurfs, and ppl that havent been real active in years, and people that play unrated etc.
Would be unfortunate to get a bad placing and lose early when you could have won 2nd place. Just in general double elimination is better due to poor seeding. Think most can agree on that.

[Veni_Vidi_Vici_W]

Double elimination is used in Starcraft 2, and tbh I like it a lot. It is also a solution to indeed some issues with seeding/elo or just bad luck etc.

For people who dont know what it is, its like people get a 2nd chance to get to the finals. If they loose in the normal bracket they will drop down to the lower bracket and have to play more matches.

Idk if something like this can be arranged still though

[WickedCossack]

Yeah double elim smooths out the seeding and we get more matches to watch

Cons however of this system is it always ruins the grand finals since the guy from the winners bracket has to get an advatange over the person from the losers bracket and it just results in an even more one-sided game. Also harder to schedule.

I don't mind either way.

[Veni_Vidi_Vici_W]

more scheduling could be an issue ye. As for the final ruined, idk. The guy from the lower bracket just gets a 2nd chance, so its normal the player from the winners bracket has a headstart. Furthermore, the games can be b05 or bo7 or so still, meaning there would be enough left over to play?

[giveuanxiety]

double elimination has been done before in aoe3 tours. and say in finals. player A from winner bracket plays player B from loser bracket. Player B would have to beat player A in 2 separate BO7 since he already lost 1.

Also with having the wildcards in this tour that will be just another complication to seeding.
And ya there would be more games that have to be played but I think it would be fine. All the players in the bracket stage for the most part are people that play almost every day and are real active, so they really dont need a whole week just to play 3 games.

and ya people might say it might be a little late to change it to double elimination, but I think it will still work and we should do what most people want. It's ok to have the current tour schedule to act as guidelines for the tournament. Especially since thats really how it generally goes anyways.

[Mitoe]

We had considered double elimination early on when deciding the rules for this tournament' it seemed kind of ambitious for such a small prize pool. I'm open to potentially discussing changes, so I'd love to hear what everyone thinks.

[spadel]

I personally would like it, more time to practice xD

[purplesquid]

As a noob that just really enjoys watching the streams, I would be down for anything that gives more gg's to watch. . .

[giveuanxiety]

The people have spoken! make it double elimination!

[SoldieR]

Double elimination actually shouldn't take longer Noe that I think about it. You just play those rounds the same time period as the winner bracket does. I think it does fix bad matchups early too.

[giveuanxiety]

ya definitely. and since everyone is asking for it I think it would be good to make it double elimination.

[kushkush]

I'm all for it

[Jaeger]

I'm all in for it too, i will try to get more people show their support this on here.