Russians Discussion Thread

[Cometk]

EP Russia is RE Russia though, the only relevant EP change besides the general ones is the 17 steel shipment becoming 20 strel. There practically no difference

[Hazza54321]

Well theres the rusket cost increase

[Cometk]

Relevant change. 1f 1c cost increase won’t matter

[iNcog]

I like reading Hazza's posts because I always read them in his voice.

[chronique]

Wait, rusket cost incresed by 1 c and 1f on EP?

[gamevideo113]

Wait, rusket cost incresed by 1 c and 1f on EP?

Musketeer batch cost increased to 285f, 95c (from 281.25f, 93.75c)

[chronique]

Ok prob the difference between op unit and average unit ^^ .

[richard]

Wait, rusket cost incresed by 1 c and 1f on EP?

Musk batch cost was changed by 5 res in total, 75% of which is food and 25% of which is coin. Because the UI showed you could train a musk-batch when you have 93G in bank but sometimes you could only train them when you had 94g in bank.

[chronique]

Wait, rusket cost incresed by 1 c and 1f on EP?

Musk batch cost was changed by 5 res in total, 75% of which is food and 25% of which is coin. Because the UI showed you could train a musk-batch when you have 93G in bank but sometimes you could only train them when you had 94g in bank.

If iam not wrong, its the same for jap with port consult for shrine no?

[richard]

Wait, rusket cost incresed by 1 c and 1f on EP?

Musk batch cost was changed by 5 res in total, 75% of which is food and 25% of which is coin. Because the UI showed you could train a musk-batch when you have 93G in bank but sometimes you could only train them when you had 94g in bank.

If iam not wrong, its the same for jap with port consult for shrine no?

It probably is true for anything which receives a price discount in any way, for example also for vc brit manors, which cost 88.75 after vc.

The fix obviously would be to let the UI display the rounded up cost (-> 89w for a manor, 94g for rusks, etc for shrines) if you dont want to provide an insignificant and unwarranted nerf to a civilization. No need to change the real cost (93.75g) behind this. But does zoom understand this?

[blackout]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

[aligator92]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

I usually go heavy on coyote runners, so that russia cannot make too many strelets. Also you should have 5-15 (depending on army sizes) puma around that you can slam in once the coyo and cossacks have engaged with each other.

[Hazza54321]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

I usually go heavy on coyote runners, so that russia cannot make too many strelets. Also you should have 5-15 (depending on army sizes) puma around that you can slam in once the coyo and cossacks have engaged with each other.

you know he asked for help from the russian side right

[aligator92]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

I usually go heavy on coyote runners, so that russia cannot make too many strelets. Also you should have 5-15 (depending on army sizes) puma around that you can slam in once the coyo and cossacks have engaged with each other.

you know he asked for help from the russian side right

now I do xD

[bittersalt123]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

Cossack/strelets and don't make muskets early on or if at all for colonial play.

[Blastkiller]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

Always 14 vills age and always distributivism expedition, age with 400w, just in 2 put semi defensive fb or if you are sure he builds it on the base put it aggressive. Once before making strelet if you need parts of 5 or 10 musk and 5 cossacks as an expedition, also taking a tp is not bad at all but I prefer to put immediately as 3 or 4 expedition spice trade and the economy goes up a lot

[richard]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

Vs aztec russia has the following advantages which they can use:

- Steel traps, while aztecs only have hunting dogs
- Boyars, while aztecs only have coyote combat
- Musk/Cav/Skirm unit composition , while aztecs only have Cav/Pike/Skirm

Given the game plays out in age II, this means that I want to avoid fights until the armies get very large (maybe like 100 army pop). Then the steel traps have worked long enough to get an advantage out of them and boyars is very effective because it affects many units. But the most important thing for me is the unit composition advantage which only really shows when masses are very large. In low number engagements, aztecs can use macehualtin extremely effective against musks, but when both armies get very large, that is not so possible anymore and musk/cav/skirm then wins against cav/pike/skirm. These are the three things russia has to use if they want to win. Aztecs have some advantages themselves, like 3wp shipment etc., but that was not the question. That s how i see it.

[blackout]

I keep struggling when I play vs aztec. I feel like I can do whatever and I still die to the colo timing of them. Are there any general tips on how to play this mu as Russia?

Vs aztec russia has the following advantages which they can use:

- Steel traps, while aztecs only have hunting dogs
- Boyars, while aztecs only have coyote combat
- Musk/Cav/Skirm unit composition , while aztecs only have Cav/Pike/Skirm

Given the game plays out in age II, this means that I want to avoid fights until the armies get very large (maybe like 100 army pop). Then the steel traps have worked long enough to get an advantage out of them and boyars is very effective because it affects many units. But the most important thing for me is the unit composition advantage which only really shows when masses are very large. In low number engagements, aztecs can use macehualtin extremely effective against musks, but when both armies get very large, that is not so possible anymore and musk/cav/skirm then wins against cav/pike/skirm. These are the three things russia has to use if they want to win. Aztecs have some advantages themselves, like 3wp shipment etc., but that was not the question. That s how i see it.

Good man, thanks! So playing defensive and getting that critical mass in colonial is key