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30 Oct 2015, 18:54

This is the Chinese Discussion thread, where several topics concerning this civilization on the ESOC Patch may be discussed. We're looking for feedback on the current state of balance, from the community's standpoint.
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No Flag ra0ulduke
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01 Nov 2015, 04:09

China just get too much stuff, if you cant cripple them early you are dead
No Flag bobtanquest3
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01 Nov 2015, 06:09

It'll be unquestionable in FP1.2 of agesanctuary
that the time of the colonist raises,
and adjusts the time of the fortress slightly,
and is best. Placing I feel awkward in visiting seems
finer than the other civilization.

When it's pointed out only,
I have to choose a right card
as an appropriate situation
and appropriate time,

even a domestic administration
also tends to become shorter than
a military power.

I think I overflow very strictly
in this point. Because Chinese is because
partiality is born and closes
for a short while by on the special
quality of the flag army,

3vs3 and 4vs4, and you can't handle adaptation
to circumstances. When I'll play by
a little map of the meat when it's added,

it becomes more difficult than the other civilization
that the military power is kept,
maintaining domestic administration.

So it's a suggestion, but the domestic administration
power of the time of the colonist is strengthened,

and a little map of the meat should be considered
in order to raise the military power smoothly.
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Great Britain britishmusketeer
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01 Nov 2015, 20:02

China definitely needs a nerf
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France [Armag] diarouga
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01 Nov 2015, 20:09

China is k
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01 Nov 2015, 20:11

britishmusketeer wrote:China definitely needs a nerf
I agree but one game i manage to stop and win china ff with french timing push (musk/huss),other game i made few mistakes(housed,overcommited...) and china guy had already mass known death ball. :D
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France [Armag] diarouga
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01 Nov 2015, 20:16

sunimirio wrote:
britishmusketeer wrote:China definitely needs a nerf
I agree but one game i manage to stop and win china ff with french timing push (musk/huss),other game i made few mistakes(housed,overcommited...) and china guy had already mass known death ball. :D
Why do you agree then? Youre basically saying that you can stop china ff unless you mess up lol.
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01 Nov 2015, 20:22

diarouga wrote:
sunimirio wrote:I agree but one game i manage to stop and win china ff with french timing push (musk/huss),other game i made few mistakes(housed,overcommited...) and china guy had already mass known death ball. :D
Why do you agree then? Youre basically saying that you can stop china ff unless you mess up lol.
I am saying that it is so hard to do that because one mistake(10/20 sec slower)and it is over because he have time to garrison,call mm and he get free army... tbh that first game his hunts were kinda away from tc... :D
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France [Armag] diarouga
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01 Nov 2015, 20:27

sunimirio wrote:
diarouga wrote:Why do you agree then? Youre basically saying that you can stop china ff unless you mess up lol.
I am saying that it is so hard to do that because one mistake(10/20 sec slower)and it is over because he have time to garrison,call mm and he get free army... tbh that first game his hunts were kinda away from tc... :D
Then dont make any mistakes.
And you dont seem to understand that a mistake from china is much more easy to make.
Like calling mm at the bad time, failing his macro, loosing too many vills, bad building placement etc
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01 Nov 2015, 20:45

Be real :D ...I am not born with serum for rightness neither you or any other human, so i am saying that it is so hard to beat that ff from china and have ability to mass like none other civ in that period of game (especially around 12 min). :D
Great Britain Hazza54321
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01 Nov 2015, 21:34

china defo needs nerf
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02 Nov 2015, 02:46

China need buff keshik for anti cavalry (he have 8*3 = 24 damage for anticavalry but he have 12xp but Zamburak have 15*3.5 = 52.5 damage he have 12xp )

China need buff start age2 at faster than 5.00 min. slow age = can rush counter.

most people say china op. they don't play china often. and player play china are pro player.

i'm not pro player. but little player can play china are good. most people say china op, he vs pro player

for china don't op . can counter by rush and cavalry. ......... player can't rush and counter by cavalry. and will say china op.

other civ can build units ez than china. example u build 1 cavalry for other civ. 120 food and 80 coin for 1 cavalry wait pick 5full but for china need 480 food 350 coin can build units . it will very slow for build unis.

example aizamk . he play most game for china. but he better than for china vs china.
but if he play vs other civ. he will lose by rush hard or counter by cavalry.
so pro player can lose by rush hard and cavalry.
u can watch at aizamk twitch . and i know .he's pro player. and he's best than me. but he can't win china vs other civ. watch at twitch or tournament.
No Flag bobtanquest3
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02 Nov 2015, 06:27

When on the nature of the flag army
and China don't store the exp I get compulsorily except for the exp I get optionally beforehand,
you wouldn't be able to do a stable war.

The exp I get compulsorily is obtainable by a keeper of a guardian or a bonus of a treasury.
When killing enemy's explorer, besides it's also obtainable.

If it's an average map, an exp will be 150
in minimum need from 100 from the time of the discovery to the time of the colonist.
You have not set your flag, click to select your flag. Marco1698

02 Nov 2015, 06:39

sunimirio wrote:Be real :D ...I am not born with serum for rightness neither you or any other human, so i am saying that it is so hard to beat that ff from china and have ability to mass like none other civ in that period of game (especially around 12 min). :D

man why don''t make a thread about German French? So you can make clear your doubts about that match up
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China fei123456
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02 Nov 2015, 06:41

chun wrote:China need buff keshik for anti cavalry (he have 8*3 = 24 damage for anticavalry but he have 12xp but Zamburak have 15*3.5 = 52.5 damage he have 12xp?)

China need buff start age2 at faster than 5.00 min. ? ? slow age = can rush counter.

most people say china op. ?they don''t play china often. and player play china are pro player.?

i''m not pro player. but little player can play china are good. most people say china op, he vs pro player

for china don''t op . can counter by rush and cavalry. ......... player can''t rush and counter by cavalry. and will say china op.

other civ can build units ez than china. example u build 1 cavalry for other civ. 120 food and 80 coin for 1 cavalry wait pick 5full but for china need 480 food 350 coin can build units . it will very slow for build unis.?

example aizamk . he play most game for china. but he better than for china vs china.?
but if he play vs other civ. he will lose by rush hard or counter by cavalry.
so pro player can lose by rush hard and cavalry.?
u can watch at? aizamk?twitch . and i know .he''s pro player. and he''s best than me. but he can''t win china vs other civ. watch at??twitch or tournament.?



keshik rof 1.5 and zamburak rof 3.
"Why don't you dare to play with me if you already know who I am? You can never beat me even if I don't cheat."
"Aoe3 is dying, and cheating keeps it alive."
——Chuan Chen(陈川)
You have not set your flag, click to select your flag. Marco1698

02 Nov 2015, 06:41

China is very good, their number of units is too high and they have good units. Han card is op. Maybe eso team could work about China, but they don't really need a complete nerf, tho
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China fei123456
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02 Nov 2015, 06:42

the colonial standard army should be 3 steppe rider 2 chukonu
china age 2 cav is weak, and can also train 2 in a batch which makes them weaker.
"Why don't you dare to play with me if you already know who I am? You can never beat me even if I don't cheat."
"Aoe3 is dying, and cheating keeps it alive."
——Chuan Chen(陈川)
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Netherlands Mr_Bramboy
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02 Nov 2015, 06:47

I think we should just let chun handle the Chinese department.
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02 Nov 2015, 06:51

paul wrote:the colonial standard army should be 3 steppe rider 2 chukonu
china age 2 cav is weak, and can also train 2 in a batch which makes them weaker.
http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Zamburak

he rof 1.5
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02 Nov 2015, 06:53

bramboy wrote:I think we should just let chun handle the Chinese department.
lol but I''m not chinese. can''t use chinese.
? ?? ? ??? ?? ? ??
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Netherlands Mr_Bramboy
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02 Nov 2015, 08:03

chun wrote:
bramboy wrote:I think we should just let chun handle the Chinese department.
lol but Im not chinese. cant use chinese.?
? ?? ? ??? ?? ? ???

I ment the civilization. Clearly you know whats up.
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02 Nov 2015, 08:32

marco1698 wrote:
sunimirio wrote:Be real :D ...I am not born with serum for rightness neither you or any other human, so i am saying that it is so hard to beat that ff from china and have ability to mass like none other civ in that period of game (especially around 12 min). :D
man why dont make a thread about German French? So you can make clear your doubts about that match up
"Chinese Discussion Thread" lol
You have not set your flag, click to select your flag. Marco1698

02 Nov 2015, 10:28

sunimirio wrote:
marco1698 wrote:man why dont make a thread about German French? So you can make clear your doubts about that match up
"Chinese Discussion Thread" lol

yeah I meant to make a new thread about that
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China fei123456
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02 Nov 2015, 13:54

chun wrote:
paul wrote:the colonial standard army should be 3 steppe rider 2 chukonu
china age 2 cav is weak, and can also train 2 in a batch which makes them weaker.
http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Zamburak

he rof 1.5

wrong it is. sure i am.
"Why don't you dare to play with me if you already know who I am? You can never beat me even if I don't cheat."
"Aoe3 is dying, and cheating keeps it alive."
——Chuan Chen(陈川)
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Skirmisher
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02 Nov 2015, 13:56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=856aUP3ym10

1:48:10

Balance?
pro player vs normal player . china can't win rush or cav+musk

most people say china op lol? what op? lol

it not balance patch . if not fix it.

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