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Pro player vs normal player (rofl)
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Diarouga is normal player confirmed.
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chun wrote:i say not with utube ok .edeholland wrote:Pro player vs normal player (rofl)
not utube riot vs Diarouga ???
i dont say Diarouga(i dont say normal player lol)
i say other pro player vs other normal player(use other civ) .
china cant win by rush hard (cav+musk) or cavalry
i not say with youtube. ok understand
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i don''t say Diarouga(i don''t say he''s normal player )jerom wrote:Diarouga is normal player confirmed.
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52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5paul wrote:wrong it is. sure i am.chun wrote:http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Zamburak
he rof 1.5
keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5
? balance patch? um wait or bye this game.
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chun wrote:52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5paul wrote:wrong it is. sure i am.
keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5
? balance patch? um wait or bye this game.
zamburak rof 3. test yourself.
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jerom wrote:Diarouga is normal player confirmed.
It seems I am
And btw, as garja said at the end, he failed, otherwise the musk/huss shouldn''t really work vs a good chinese who ages up with the academy.
The MU is still quite fair tho, on non herdable maps.
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i dont say, u are normal player.diarouga wrote:It seems I amjerom wrote:Diarouga is normal player confirmed.
And btw, as garja said at the end, he failed, otherwise the musk/huss shouldnt really work vs a good chinese who ages up with the academy.
The MU is still quite fair tho, on non herdable maps.
and he dreaming?
have more game china vs other civ. cant win.
I think u see its.
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I dont know. I dont play India.paul wrote:zamburak rof 3. test yourself.chun wrote:52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5
keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5
? balance patch? um wait or bye this game.
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If you do not know then do not claim to know in the first place, please.
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China is definitely not a bad civ.
I don't want them to be nerfed but they're far from being UP.
I don't want them to be nerfed but they're far from being UP.
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China was the third is a great civ. But in the age 2 it is very weak against Rush civ such as Russia and Ottoman. Almost impossible to win. I think it would be good to have a better defense early. As the village attack when garrisoned (maximum 5 (45 attack) attack settlers, and the letter of the village is 10 (90 attacks)), and not to get op more in the age 3 to change something, I can not say what now.
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That would be super op.
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Improve the era 2 China is bad. And to make matters worse it would be necessary to balance the era 3
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Lol zams have 3.0 rofchun wrote:52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5paul wrote:wrong it is. sure i am.
keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5
? balance patch? um wait or bye this game.
Only gunpowder light cav with 1.5 rof are RRs.
But yeah keshiks are shit.
Imho:
-Increase keshik HP by 10
-Nerf intervention to 8 musks
-Decrease steppe rider cost 5 coin.
-Nerf old han
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You don't want to make china an age 2 civ since it would just standardise them.
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You might want to tweak old han reforms a bit. Although thats the most fun card in the game.
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China issues are pretty clear. Need a buff to colo cav, nerf to fortress shipemtns and a tweak on old han reforms. It's just a matter of wanting to change those things or not.
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China is kinda broken because they rely on extremely strong shipments and they have few colonial options.
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I'm fine with Old Han, it's their game-changing thing and they only get it in Industrial like French with gendarms (I know it's easier for China to go Indus but still).
How about increasing training time ? I don't think it will penalize the civ that much since most of its units are provided by the Home City.
How about increasing training time ? I don't think it will penalize the civ that much since most of its units are provided by the Home City.
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Currently the only way to play china is to ff because their fort is so good and their colo fucking sucks.britishmusketeer wrote:You don''t want to make china an age 2 civ since it would just standardise them.
I would like to see china viable in both, without being too OP. Kinda like France.
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I think . China will lose at age1 or age2 because china start age 2 avg. at5.00min. china will lose rush hard. lose cavalry+musk or full cavalry. if china can age3. china will lose at age3??ivan wrote:Lol zams have 3.0 rofchun wrote:52.5 damage vs Calvary with rof 1.5
keshik have 8*3 = 24 damage vs cavalry with rof 1.5
? balance patch? um wait or bye this game.
Only gunpowder light cav with 1.5 rof are RRs.
But yeah keshiks are shit.
Imho:
-Increase keshik HP by 10
-Nerf intervention to 8 musks
-Decrease steppe rider cost 5 coin.
-Nerf old han
because china will lose 2 house. lose village. lose pop. lose eco. lose tc. cant age 4. I watch Boneng. he china fl. lose rush hard. I think china will lose. at age2 or age3,
sum up, china will lose at age2 age3 , cant will age4 . cant use old han reform card.
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I think . If u can age3. shipment useless for china age3? because u lose house. lose village. village can''t fram(hunt animal or mine. wood?) lose eco.garja wrote:China issues are pretty clear. Need a buff to colo cav, nerf to fortress shipemtns and a tweak on old han reforms. It''s just a matter of wanting to change those things or not.
It = gg = lose? I know u better than me.
u start age2 at 4.40min and will go age3 at6.00min, u lose rush hard by cavalry+musk or full cavalry. u can age3 but lose village. lose eco. lose shipment at age3? 9 china musk or 4calvary can''t fight .
if japanese can 2 shipment at one card?
If japanese op. can fram at tc.
sum up, china will lose at age2 age3 , can''t will age4 . can''t use old han reform card.
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dont nerf old han. if so, nerf otto and spain revolt first.
china age 2 cav is too weak. and age 3 cav needs some nerf(training speed?).
forbidden army(age 3 cav) is interesting. iron flail is shit. meteur hammer is quite low-hp too. but when they work together they are just insane. so, maybe we can change forbidden army from 2 flail 2 hammer into 3 changdao 2 hammer?
china age 2 cav is too weak. and age 3 cav needs some nerf(training speed?).
forbidden army(age 3 cav) is interesting. iron flail is shit. meteur hammer is quite low-hp too. but when they work together they are just insane. so, maybe we can change forbidden army from 2 flail 2 hammer into 3 changdao 2 hammer?
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standard army
from 2 steppe rider 3 ckn to 3 rider 2 ckn
forbidden army
from 2 flail 2 hammer to 3 changdao 2 hammer
from 2 steppe rider 3 ckn to 3 rider 2 ckn
forbidden army
from 2 flail 2 hammer to 3 changdao 2 hammer
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