Sioux Discussion Thread
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Mimsy for President wrote:Yeah better than 3huss for example which isn't even a bad shipment.
read the garja's post pls
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Garja wrote:2ds in colonial is a pretty poor shipment
Don't think so. It's basically 2 cuirs with no extra costs. I'd take 2 cuirs over 3 huss as fr on any day of the week.
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thebritish wrote:Mimsy for President wrote:Yeah better than 3huss for example which isn't even a bad shipment.
read the garja's post pls
No need. Only his guide is worth it.
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I think 2 dogs is fine, but 4 AR seems much better. 2 dogs seems about on the 3 huss level of strength I think
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3 huss > 2 colonial ds. Being a shipment of just 2 cav units that have 28 attack is pretty lame. I'd rather send 3 AR which is more or less on the level of 3 huss.
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28 *1.5 vs infantry so 42. 550hp and better resists vs ranged.
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2 dog soldiers have 1100hp (even 4 axe riders have 1000hp only. 3 hussar 960.) so they are best tank units. they don't actually need high attack cause bow rider has it. hp is always more important to melee cavs.
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Not to mention they might have quite a bit of attack on average over a sustained fight because they die less quickly.
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Garja wrote:3 units vs 2
Which is why you have 10 crossbowman in your deck instead of the more standard 8 skirmishers, I presume?
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No which is why I changed the 2ds card with the 3 ar one. Realistically tho you don't want any of the 2.
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bram just showed me the way. Sioux OP
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Sioux is very good imo. It's one of the few civ that can beat Germans and other good civs on land maps.
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id rather have 2 dogs for the dps vs inf and the tank so much more than 3ar
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Same here 2ds have that bonus against inf that makes them useful against a rush. You just need to time the card with a cav batch or something like that. This way they act as very strong tanks supported by great damage dealers like ar.
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yeah sioux is not bad against german. but they're weaker when facing musk/goon civs.
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Isn't musk/goon countered by pure wakina? Or do you mean skirm/musk/goon compo?
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how Sioux can beat german?Garja wrote:Sioux is very good imo. It's one of the few civ that can beat Germans and other good civs on land maps.
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deuxballesman wrote:Isn't musk/goon countered by pure wakina? Or do you mean skirm/musk/goon compo?
He doesnt mean a musk/huss combo, he means civs that can do those units. Musks age 2 are really good unit vs bow rider.
Civs without musks in age 2 struggle vs Sioux, why i agree with garja that Sioux beat German.
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I don t think sioux should play colonial vs german.
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fichtenweg wrote:deuxballesman wrote:Isn't musk/goon countered by pure wakina? Or do you mean skirm/musk/goon compo?
He doesnt mean a musk/huss combo, he means civs that can do those units. Musks age 2 are really good unit vs bow rider.
Civs without musks in age 2 struggle vs Sioux, why i agree with garja that Sioux beat German.
err... bow pike uhlan reks sioux, specially now that BR are nerfed.
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I thought cetan>xbow club>pike with br hard countering uhlans I would have given the advantage to Sioux here. Where is that reasoning flawed?umeu wrote:fichtenweg wrote:deuxballesman wrote:Isn't musk/goon countered by pure wakina? Or do you mean skirm/musk/goon compo?
He doesnt mean a musk/huss combo, he means civs that can do those units. Musks age 2 are really good unit vs bow rider.
Civs without musks in age 2 struggle vs Sioux, why i agree with garja that Sioux beat German.
err... bow pike uhlan reks sioux, specially now that BR are nerfed.
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cetan/club/axe/br > xbow/pike/uhans/dopp. And eco should be somewhat similar in colonial because sioux have higher shipment rate and don't need houses.
Also because it's going to be an infantry battle they can make use of the wood ups.
Also because it's going to be an infantry battle they can make use of the wood ups.
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Are dops needed since there are pikes already ? They take a lot of pop and the more houses you make the more Sioux benefits of its free 200pop slotsGarja wrote:cetan/club/axe/br > xbow/pike/uhans/dopp. And eco should be somewhat similar in colonial because sioux have higher shipment rate and don't need houses.
Also because it's going to be an infantry battle they can make use of the wood ups.
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