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Remove negative multipliers for organ guns?
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noissance wrote:Remove negative multipliers for organ guns?

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I think buffing cass is a good idea
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Method_man714 wrote:I think buffing cass is a good idea


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Just no
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thebritish wrote:Just no

Why? It is a very weak unit and port is a weak civ.
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Cassadors suck indeed but Ports aren't weak wtf.
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well I think cass are good as long as you have a goon mass to defend them from cav. Its just the high food cost that is a bit akward (at least I find it difficult to keep spamming cass and villagers non stop)
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tedere12 wrote:well I think cass are good as long as you have a goon mass to defend them from cav. Its just the high food cost that is a bit akward (at least I find it difficult to keep spamming cass and villagers non stop)

But you can t have enough goons, otherwise you get outskirmed
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well, you cant attack while booming.
you need to choose between military and eco.
if we allow them to have enough military while booming from 3 TC's, they will become too OP
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Or perhaps a 3 organ shipment to compete with 2 falc and enemy infantry
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You could do that if u added a coin cost of 200 but I prefer just turning it into a Li'l Bombard shipment instead.
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zoom wrote:You could do that if u added a coin cost of 200 but I prefer just turning it into a Li'l Bombard shipment instead.

That's be super cool
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Method_man714 wrote:I think buffing cass is a good idea


+1

+10 HP is good starting base.
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[– Cassador (base) damage increased from ~14.167 and ~4.167 to 15 and 5 ranged and melee respectively.]
– Cassador cost decreased from 80f, 35c to 70f, 35c (bounties recalculated accordingly).
– "8 Cassadors" home-city shipment increased to 9 Cassadors.

Oh, and all Fortress-Age based stats changed to Colonial base, of course...
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Ports get all musk/cass hp/dam cards in industrial age which is pretty late. One should be moved to fortress.
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zoom wrote:[– Cassador (base) damage increased from ~14.167 and ~4.167 to 15 and 5 ranged and melee respectively.]
– Cassador cost decreased from 80f, 35c to 70f, 35c (bounties recalculated accordingly).
– "8 Cassadors" home-city shipment increased to 9 Cassadors.

Oh, and all Fortress-Age based stats changed to Colonial base, of course...

maybe also give them barracks which spawn cassadors for free evry 30 secconds
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thebritish wrote:
zoom wrote:[– Cassador (base) damage increased from ~14.167 and ~4.167 to 15 and 5 ranged and melee respectively.]
– Cassador cost decreased from 80f, 35c to 70f, 35c (bounties recalculated accordingly).
– "8 Cassadors" home-city shipment increased to 9 Cassadors.

Oh, and all Fortress-Age based stats changed to Colonial base, of course...

maybe also give them barracks which spawn cassadors for free evry 30 secconds

That sounds completely unreasonable, unlike my above suggestion.
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zoom wrote:
thebritish wrote:
zoom wrote:[– Cassador (base) damage increased from ~14.167 and ~4.167 to 15 and 5 ranged and melee respectively.]
– Cassador cost decreased from 80f, 35c to 70f, 35c (bounties recalculated accordingly).
– "8 Cassadors" home-city shipment increased to 9 Cassadors.

Oh, and all Fortress-Age based stats changed to Colonial base, of course...

maybe also give them barracks which spawn cassadors for free evry 30 secconds

That sounds completely unreasonable, unlike my above suggestion.

cassadors are even better than all skirms out there (even lbows) and if you make them cheaper, they will become OP and with the 20 range goons, ports will become the best civ and will demolish everyone once it gets in age 4
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I don't know of a single good player who thinks Cassadors are better than Skirmishers, and Longbowmen – while ranged infantry – are not a skirmisher unit. They certainly should be a little better than they are.

Also, I'm confident Genitours will not give 6 range for long. I was only discussing Cassadors...
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I think both schooner play and genitours are somewhat problematic aspect of port play, but I honestly feel like theyre fine right now. Maybe on the weak side of things but it isnt that bad.

If youd buff them maybe make cassadores slightly less food heavy. Ports run out of food so crazy quickly right now that it might be a little unfair.

EDIT: zois suggested changes are way over the top imo. Not needed to change that heavily right now imo.
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zoom wrote:
thebritish wrote:
zoom wrote:[– Cassador (base) damage increased from ~14.167 and ~4.167 to 15 and 5 ranged and melee respectively.]
– Cassador cost decreased from 80f, 35c to 70f, 35c (bounties recalculated accordingly).
– "8 Cassadors" home-city shipment increased to 9 Cassadors.

Oh, and all Fortress-Age based stats changed to Colonial base, of course...

maybe also give them barracks which spawn cassadors for free evry 30 secconds

That sounds completely unreasonable, unlike my above suggestion.

That would make them superdojos, which are only for japan
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Can we make genitours a dragoon combat rather than range, same rangem as a skirm and more range than gurhas, strelets and mace is just ridiculous
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Make it a large hp boost? +25% hp
Or cheaper/faster
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thebritish wrote:
zoom wrote:
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That sounds completely unreasonable, unlike my above suggestion.

cassadors are even better than all skirms out there (even lbows) and if you make them cheaper, they will become OP and with the 20 range goons, ports will become the best civ and will demolish everyone once it gets in age 4

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