Ottomans Discussion Thread

[momuuu]

Ok but it still seems too powerful. 25 in discovery is really much

Thats entirely possible. Im only reluctant to jump to conclusions. Again, allow me to emphasize: If its an issue it will no doubt be addressed.

Did you even test it then......?

[iNcog]

Thats entirely possible. Im only reluctant to jump to conclusions. Again, allow me to emphasize: If its an issue it will no doubt be addressed.

Did you even test it then......?

Our tests found that it wasnt really an issue..

[zoom]

Thats entirely possible. Im only reluctant to jump to conclusions. Again, allow me to emphasize: If its an issue it will no doubt be addressed.

Did you even test it then......?

Yes, of curse. Did I imply otherwise?

[pikadasgalaxias]

Ottoman remains the most op civ. For real balance, it takes more editing abus. One idea is that its population is cost 3.

[momuuu]

has anyone mentioned yet that the jan hp accidentally got nerfed a little bit aswell?

[deleted_user0]

did it?

ah ye it lost 10 hp

[benj89]

has anyone mentioned yet that the jan hp accidentally got nerfed a little bit aswell?

good news!

[fei123456]

abus is strong but jani is the main unit of ottoman. idk why you always hate abus so much but ignore janissary.

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Because the Abus Gun is a much stronger unit than the Janissary, which is also strong albeit low damage and poor anti-cavalry.

[fei123456]

Because the Abus Gun is a much stronger unit than the Janissary, which is also strong albeit low damage and poor anti-cavalry.

but you will always train much more jani than abus. and rush dont need abus. ff dont need abus. revolt dont need abus. if abus is really that strong why dont otto player start artillery foundry and mass abus every game?

[zoom]

Because Musketeers are more all around units.

[Kaiserklein]

Because the Abus Gun is a much stronger unit than the Janissary, which is also strong albeit low damage and poor anti-cavalry.

but you will always train much more jani than abus. and rush dont need abus. ff dont need abus. revolt dont need abus. if abus is really that strong why dont otto player start artillery foundry and mass abus every game?

Because otto players are too bad to micro abus so they prefer going full jans

[aoefan4life]

mmmm free villies

[deleted_user0]

It's still overpowered.

[Kaiserklein]

To be fair silk road depends a lot on the map and the starting crates. With 400w it is really good, and on maps with op early tps like gp or high plains sr is op. With 300w it is way less interesting, and on some maps you can't go 3v / sr while still havong a shipment ready in colonial. You can still ship silk instead of 3 vils tho

[lukas2223]

Ye Otto is bueno, still giving everyone sulimans schlong everyday.

[pikadasgalaxias]

Abus population must 3

[Kaiserklein]

Abus population must 3

Why would you worsen the only bad aspect of abus ? They already cost 2 pop, which is quite expansive for a 150 res unit. Why 3 ? Doesn''t make any sense. We need to either increase their cost or reduce their attack, or at least make it a "ranged attack" type, tho the latter might be standardizing

[pikadasgalaxias]

Less amount, less destructive power

[fard]

but you will always train much more jani than abus. and rush dont need abus. ff dont need abus. revolt dont need abus. if abus is really that strong why dont otto player start artillery foundry and mass abus every game?

Because otto players are too bad to micro abus so they prefer going full jans

Lol i used to have 4 groups of abus if i have like 16
How can that be bad? Otto needs skill u dumbfucks

[fard]

And you guys talking so much of uniques. Abus are unique how they are. Dont change anything it will destroy the opness of otto, already iro got nerfed so hard. You can rush them down with dutch wtf

[deleted_user0]

tell em fard, go beserk

[fard]

tell em fard, go beserk

Yea Umeu, idk this guys obv dont understand anything of true aoe gameplay LEL

[Dsy]

Abus compare to skirmisher
130hp->' 108% hp
40 attack 266% damage
Trainable colo, but need a.foundry
Unit effectivity (266+108)/2 = 187% --->'>'>' 87% stronger than skirm
Unit effectivity with ranged resist (266+103)/2 --->'>'>' 84,5%
Price: 30% more expensive than skirm

Price/value: 54,5% stronger than skirm

Decide you its op or not.

[Jaeger]

Because otto players are too bad to micro abus so they prefer going full jans

Lol i used to have 4 groups of abus if i have like 16
How can that be bad? Otto needs skill u dumbfucks

So other civs are at least as hard because if you have 32 skirms you can have 4 groups of 8? Plus for other civs there are multiple more things that are harder to do than with otto.