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pikadasgalaxias wrote:Sanctuary resources flow should be slightly lower. The shoguns must have a cost to be sent, about 700 food is something acceptable or decrease the power of his aura.

You are saying a shogun is worth 2300 resources?
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Do not know. No game from Japan. It was just a guess
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Japan are fine. Not sure why people think they are so good and need a nerf.
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Because musks are very versatile units. Ashigaru even more due to their awesome stats. Basically they wreck units that are supposed to counter them.
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Ashli are only really good with card investment (attack, hp, daimyo) and they are expensive. If Japan can invest in all that they should win. That means they forced the play to their favor.
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mmcnoel wrote:Ashli are only really good with card investment (attack, hp, daimyo) and they are expensive. If Japan can invest in all that they should win. That means they forced the play to their favor.
yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
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chun wrote:
mmcnoel wrote:Ashli are only really good with card investment (attack, hp, daimyo) and they are expensive. If Japan can invest in all that they should win. That means they forced the play to their favor.
yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
He is saying that if they have so strong units, they deserve to win.
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edeholland wrote:
chun wrote:yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
He is saying that if they have so strong units, they deserve to win.
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Ashis literally rek everything because of their high att and speed, for example acergame vs musket jr dutch vs ashi, ruyter skirm should counter ashi pretty hard but they really dont
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hazza54321 wrote:Ashis literally rek everything because of their high att and speed, for example acergame vs musket jr dutch vs ashi, ruyter skirm should counter ashi pretty hard but they really dont
yes, nerf japanese for balance
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chun wrote:
hazza54321 wrote:Ashis literally rek everything because of their high att and speed, for example acergame vs musket jr dutch vs ashi, ruyter skirm should counter ashi pretty hard but they really dont
yes, nerf japanese for balance

just their ashi speed, then theyre fine
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The speed is what nake ashi unique, just like lbows range, cuirs area of damage and erk rof. I can't see it being changed. Besides ashi are not even as scary as they used to be.
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Why do people want to nerf japs IV. As if you're gonna see japan FI (excluding all the goodspeeds)
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blackwidow wrote:Why do people want to nerf japs IV. As if you''re gonna see japan FI (excluding all the goodspeeds)
That''s exactly what happens.
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I still don't see why Ashi is a huge problem. They are a strong unit, yes. But it's not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or don't remember.
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mmcnoel wrote:But it''s not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or don''t remember.
That''s not an argument for current balance :P
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shaolinstar wrote:
blackwidow wrote:Why do people want to nerf japs IV. As if youre gonna see japan FI (excluding all the goodspeeds)
Thats exactly what happens.
I rarely see it, and now that the shogunate doesnt give tons of xp anymore, I dont see it being viable either. Japan has way better options too, so why nerf that part of japan, when you can (if you must) nerf something else?
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Because it's not so hard for Japan to go indus and because it's one of the most effective indus.
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edeholland wrote:
mmcnoel wrote:But its not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or dont remember.
Thats not an argument for current balance :P



I know.

And to the comment about Musket game vs acer. Thats not a good example because acer had more units, better upgrades and he also had cav.
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mmcnoel wrote:
edeholland wrote:Thats not an argument for current balance :P

I know.

And to the comment about Musket game vs acer. Thats not a good example because acer had more units, better upgrades and he also had cav.
Japan always has more units, better upgrades and also cav. :)
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mmcnoel wrote:I still dont see why Ashi is a huge problem. They are a strong unit, yes. But its not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or dont remember.
+1

yurashic wrote:
mmcnoel wrote:I know.

And to the comment about Musket game vs acer. Thats not a good example because acer had more units, better upgrades and he also had cav.
Japan always has more units,&'nbsp'better upgrades and also cav. :)
Id say most of times it is the other way around. Except for upgrades, they do have better units ye.
Anyway, that tourney game was a bad example. If it was brit musks-huss it would have ended in the exact same way.
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How do you beat Russian as jap, on fp and on eso maps? I think Russian just counterciv
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Marco1698 wrote:How do you beat Russian as jap, on fp and on eso maps? I think Russian just counterciv

Yeah they do.
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Allow buildable dojos in age 2?
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Dojos training Yumi are actually great.

It's just that you can't really afford to spare the shipments.

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