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05 Nov 2015, 10:22

pikadasgalaxias wrote:Sanctuary resources flow should be slightly lower. The shoguns must have a cost to be sent, about 700 food is something acceptable or decrease the power of his aura.

You are saying a shogun is worth 2300 resources?
paul wrote:how to beat japan on siberia? with euro civs like france. their eco is insane.
Please dont talk strategy here, but rather here.
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05 Nov 2015, 10:37

Do not know. No game from Japan. It was just a guess
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05 Nov 2015, 12:13

Japan are fine. Not sure why people think they are so good and need a nerf.
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05 Nov 2015, 12:55

Because musks are very versatile units. Ashigaru even more due to their awesome stats. Basically they wreck units that are supposed to counter them.
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05 Nov 2015, 13:04

Ashli are only really good with card investment (attack, hp, daimyo) and they are expensive. If Japan can invest in all that they should win. That means they forced the play to their favor.
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05 Nov 2015, 13:12

mmcnoel wrote:Ashli are only really good with card investment (attack, hp, daimyo) and they are expensive. If Japan can invest in all that they should win. That means they forced the play to their favor.
yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
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05 Nov 2015, 13:15

chun wrote:
mmcnoel wrote:Ashli are only really good with card investment (attack, hp, daimyo) and they are expensive. If Japan can invest in all that they should win. That means they forced the play to their favor.
yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
He is saying that if they have so strong units, they deserve to win.
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05 Nov 2015, 13:28

edeholland wrote:
chun wrote:yes, and general have aura+ hp or damage. and they have wonder+atk . need nerf them.
He is saying that if they have so strong units, they deserve to win.
Thank you, .
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05 Nov 2015, 13:57

Ashis literally rek everything because of their high att and speed, for example acergame vs musket jr dutch vs ashi, ruyter skirm should counter ashi pretty hard but they really dont
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05 Nov 2015, 14:04

hazza54321 wrote:Ashis literally rek everything because of their high att and speed, for example acergame vs musket jr dutch vs ashi, ruyter skirm should counter ashi pretty hard but they really dont
yes, nerf japanese for balance
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05 Nov 2015, 14:06

chun wrote:
hazza54321 wrote:Ashis literally rek everything because of their high att and speed, for example acergame vs musket jr dutch vs ashi, ruyter skirm should counter ashi pretty hard but they really dont
yes, nerf japanese for balance

just their ashi speed, then theyre fine
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05 Nov 2015, 14:36

The speed is what nake ashi unique, just like lbows range, cuirs area of damage and erk rof. I can't see it being changed. Besides ashi are not even as scary as they used to be.
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05 Nov 2015, 14:50

Why do people want to nerf japs IV. As if you're gonna see japan FI (excluding all the goodspeeds)
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05 Nov 2015, 14:55

blackwidow wrote:Why do people want to nerf japs IV. As if you''re gonna see japan FI (excluding all the goodspeeds)
That''s exactly what happens.
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05 Nov 2015, 15:21

I still don't see why Ashi is a huge problem. They are a strong unit, yes. But it's not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or don't remember.
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05 Nov 2015, 15:29

mmcnoel wrote:But it''s not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or don''t remember.
That''s not an argument for current balance :P
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05 Nov 2015, 15:32

shaolinstar wrote:
blackwidow wrote:Why do people want to nerf japs IV. As if youre gonna see japan FI (excluding all the goodspeeds)
Thats exactly what happens.
I rarely see it, and now that the shogunate doesnt give tons of xp anymore, I dont see it being viable either. Japan has way better options too, so why nerf that part of japan, when you can (if you must) nerf something else?
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05 Nov 2015, 15:42

Because it's not so hard for Japan to go indus and because it's one of the most effective indus.
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05 Nov 2015, 15:49

edeholland wrote:
mmcnoel wrote:But its not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or dont remember.
Thats not an argument for current balance :P



I know.

And to the comment about Musket game vs acer. Thats not a good example because acer had more units, better upgrades and he also had cav.
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05 Nov 2015, 19:51

mmcnoel wrote:
edeholland wrote:Thats not an argument for current balance :P

I know.

And to the comment about Musket game vs acer. Thats not a good example because acer had more units, better upgrades and he also had cav.
Japan always has more units, better upgrades and also cav. :)
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05 Nov 2015, 20:07

mmcnoel wrote:I still dont see why Ashi is a huge problem. They are a strong unit, yes. But its not like they used to be where they were unstoppable. People complaining now must not have been around in 2008 or dont remember.
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yurashic wrote:
mmcnoel wrote:I know.

And to the comment about Musket game vs acer. Thats not a good example because acer had more units, better upgrades and he also had cav.
Japan always has more units,&'nbsp'better upgrades and also cav. :)
Id say most of times it is the other way around. Except for upgrades, they do have better units ye.
Anyway, that tourney game was a bad example. If it was brit musks-huss it would have ended in the exact same way.
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02 Dec 2015, 06:45

How do you beat Russian as jap, on fp and on eso maps? I think Russian just counterciv
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02 Dec 2015, 06:49

Marco1698 wrote:How do you beat Russian as jap, on fp and on eso maps? I think Russian just counterciv

Yeah they do.
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02 Jan 2016, 11:55

Allow buildable dojos in age 2?
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02 Jan 2016, 12:09

Dojos training Yumi are actually great.

It's just that you can't really afford to spare the shipments.
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