Indians Discussion Thread
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300e rush doesnt even beat china...
10/10 12 sepoy rush with tp in transition is scarier. But shouldnt work either unless china has bad map
10/10 12 sepoy rush with tp in transition is scarier. But shouldnt work either unless china has bad map
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i think nerfing agra hp to 4000 would be a good start
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turn the agra into a regular fort and India will be okay again
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Make Sepoys Great Again
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Assuming Agra Fort is the problem in the first place, that's a bit ugly, wouldn't you say? Could make all wonders scale from 4000 in Colonial, though.Hazza54321 wrote:i think nerfing agra hp to 4000 would be a good start
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ofc its a problem lol
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I feel tweaking agra stats is not an optimal change. Agra fort is strong, but not op, and in any case, lowering agra hp doesn't affect the one unit type rush, which is the problem.
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Sepoy rush isn’t even the problem. Otto Jan rush is stronger than a sepoy rush. The problem is they can sepoy rush and follow up with a great eco and not even have to age to get skirms and goons
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somppukunkku wrote:Iro and China (sioux too with idiot tiipiis) do just well vs sepoys. They wont' stay in age 2.
Yes, for example as brit its a problem. That's why I have been suggesting that LB's could get 1.5x heavy inf and maybe twerk attack by 1, for example.
You guys can't be seriously nerfing sepoys more. Muskets are already more cost efficient without ups.
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Who (nationality) rape ?
stupid logic. noob players can say op?
toxic, Insult, Racism ?
stupid logic. noob players can say op?
toxic, Insult, Racism ?
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Sepoy rush isnt a problem at all , like gibson said its the follow up, they can age and let the fort buy 5 mins or starve the opponent with them being forced to push the agra for hunts. Where youre asking to get 6mm’d and sepoy poped or if india gets to 3rd its a urumi pop
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The problem!? I thought it was fine after the Sepoy nerf.Rikikipu wrote:I feel tweaking agra stats is not an optimal change. Agra fort is strong, but not op, and in any case, lowering agra hp doesn't affect the one unit type rush, which is the problem.
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Could remove the Colonial Age units. They're awkward in a rush and inconsistent with following ages.Hazza54321 wrote:Sepoy rush isnt a problem at all , like gibson said its the follow up, they can age and let the fort buy 5 mins or starve the opponent with them being forced to push the agra for hunts. Where youre asking to get 6mm’d and sepoy poped or if india gets to 3rd its a urumi pop
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Agra is theorically an issue since you shouldn't be allowed to take the map for free, and it is a problem in team games, but pratically, in 1v1, it isn't.
Most civs can just age, and break it with the falcs, and if India ages, they'll have more skirms and be ok.
Most civs can just age, and break it with the falcs, and if India ages, they'll have more skirms and be ok.
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the thing is india dont care if u kill the agra if theyre aging
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In theory you sohuld bypass the agra, since there arent even vills gathering there most of times. The problem is that it is risky, in part because of the huge LOS that sees and shoots all the units passing by.
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I see your point, but I think there's some nuance to it; sieging the Agra really is optional, and if you do, Indians loses the map control and production.Hazza54321 wrote:the thing is india dont care if u kill the agra if theyre aging
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Hazza54321 wrote:the thing is india dont care if u kill the agra if theyre aging
No they don't, but you'll still have more skirms after you killed the agra, so you can then damage his economy.
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Garja wrote:In theory you sohuld bypass the agra, since there arent even vills gathering there most of times. The problem is that it is risky, in part because of the huge LOS that sees and shoots all the units passing by.
I think this will give india a huge chance to flank you with sepoy mass from the base, and urumi and a batch of sepoy from the agra.
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Ashvin wrote:Garja wrote:In theory you sohuld bypass the agra, since there arent even vills gathering there most of times. The problem is that it is risky, in part because of the huge LOS that sees and shoots all the units passing by.
I think this will give india a huge chance to flank you with sepoy mass from the base, and urumi and a batch of sepoy from the agra.
Yea, that's another stupid garja theory, don't pay attention to him.
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Just stfu, "bypass the agra" are literally recycled words from someone way better than you. If anyone with stupid theory here it's you and azzy FI vs India FI.
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so how are we gonna nerf this
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sepoy 4.5 speed, sowars 10hp 5 attack
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somppukunkku wrote:sepoy 4.5 speed, sowars 10hp 5 attack
Why do this when you can just remove Sowars from the game and give Sepoy an extra formation that let's them mount camels and move with 7.25 speed? That way you can just sepoy/sepoy combo, and mix up how many of them are cav. Sounds balanced to me.
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tbh sounds reasonable considering the state theyre in
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I think you overrate them a bit :/
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