[RO8] - dickator_ and QueenOfDestiny VS Collect1onn and martinspjuth

[dicktator_]

They banned Ori we chose Andes. They chose to do civ bans and banned brit, so we banned Japan, and the result was ger + ger vs ger + france (I wouldn't mind a nerf on Guild Artisans tbh). Forgot screenshot again :/

[martinspjuth]

GG WP

[QueenOfdestiny]

Well, i forgott the screenshot again...
WP GG

[Gichtenlord]

Well played. I think that collection and martin would have won if martin had toyed a bit more with queen. Doing more jumps and also walling center off. Everytime, when martin did a jump to nats side Queen didnt really know how to take advantage of it.
Biggest issue of this map is the momentum you gain if you win the start fight in nats. You pretty much get the whole center of the cliff area and the other player has to go back and turtle at his natposts

[collect1onn]

:/ yeh maybe. But we would have won if i didnt mess my start so hard... Dick was playing to good so i wasnt able to get back into the game, even with martin´s help...

[sergyou]

ger is the best civ dick has to carry a game , that was a big mistake on the pick/bans

[Gichtenlord]

ger is the best civ dick has to carry a game , that was a big mistake on the pick/bans

Yeah. As long as you have heavy cannons out, you can actually deal quite well vs a double

[collect1onn]

@sergyou

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the other option would have been brit.

[sergyou]

@sergyou

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the other option would have been brit.

Yup and ur ger vs his brits would have been better

[OliverP]

@sergyou

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the other option would have been brit.

Yup and ur ger vs his brits would have been better

how can you ban ger and still play them ?

[martinspjuth]

Well played. I think that collection and martin would have won if martin had toyed a bit more with queen. Doing more jumps and also walling center off. Everytime, when martin did a jump to nats side Queen didnt really know how to take advantage of it.
Biggest issue of this map is the momentum you gain if you win the start fight in nats. You pretty much get the whole center of the cliff area and the other player has to go back and turtle at his natposts

Problem was that the momentum dick got after first fight was to big. QoD also did a good job at wallspamming, preventing me from any quick jump into their eco. Unfortunately i am not good or fast enough to do art war good at two different spots, forcing me to only help coll with a mass of units. Nick is just too good with ger for that to work very well, his hc's gets off good shots and massacre my inf, and he can catch my gends with humanincas, making the double somewhat inefficient, and draining me. I can not really push QoD either when all dick has to do is send some nats or morts to my fb if i get a bit too far. We lost the game in cliffs, you simply can't win without nats, especially since queen walled up good. No blame on coll tho, dick is just too good at punishing misstakes. I should also mentioned that queen did okay when i sent pop vs dick. I never could double him for long before turning my attention back to queen, and also forcing me to take bad fights since my army was split up.

And ye, we might have done strategically misstakes when banning civs, probably should have banned ger, since it is queens best civ and dick is op no matter what civ. I should maybe have gone russia or port instead of france, it would have made it easier to play on two fronts. But it is easy to speculate about that after the game. Yesterday we did what we could, and at that day dick and queen was the better team. Well played by them.

[supernapoleon]

Germany is always an option for a war on two fronts

[sergyou]

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@sergyou

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the other option would have been brit.

Yup and ur ger vs his brits would have been better

how can you ban ger and still play them ?

ah right , my bad xD . Even better france vs his brits or france mirror

[sergyou]

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@sergyou

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the other option would have been brit.

Yup and ur ger vs his brits would have been better

how can you ban ger and still play them ?

ah right , my bad xD . Even better france vs his brits or france mirror. Those 2 mu's are better than ger mirror when facing dicktator imo.

[collect1onn]

Was thinking about brit mirror But with his brits He can feed qod nearly infinit

[charlemagen]

Gg!

[sebnan12]

soo impressive @dicktator_

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lets hope u wont play that strong vs fran in finals

[InsectPoison]

:/ yeh maybe. But we would have won if i didnt mess my start so hard... Dick was playing to good so i wasnt able to get back into the game, even with martin´s help...

You lost because you couldnt keep pop, you went to 125 . You also lost all your HC in start and dicktator kept his alive.