Would you participate in the nr 20 tournament?

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04 Sep 2019, 10:59

Doing an interest check since the nr 20 3v3 tournament thread got a decent amount of interest relative to how unrealistic I thought it'd be.
If come to be the tournament would be played on re patch, preliminary map pool would be Andes, Deccan, Great Plains, Painted Desert and Siberia in some order but probably one to two map bans for each player in the earlier rounds for bo1/bo3 and the prize pool would probably be around 500$, probably more if there's a lot of signups and possibly less if there's just enough for a weekend tournament.

If you're interested in participating and you're a good player posting in the thread on top of answering the poll would be appreciated, might make it more likely to happen and I'd also like to hear your views on whether china/french should be banned or if all civilizations should be allowed.

EDIT: Decided to do minimum 500$ regardless of amount of entrants, the tournament is not pay to play and the prize pool will be funded exclusively by me unless people want to donate to add more onto the prize pool.
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04 Sep 2019, 11:08

In, no ban on civs but would like more diverse map pool
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04 Sep 2019, 11:18

princeofcarthage wrote:In, no ban on civs but would like more diverse map pool

Your opinion will be taken into consideration, I know you'd like some esoc maps in the map pool but I'm not sure which if any that I would consider appropriate and I'm not sure what the consensus is regarding whether there should be some water maps or not. Personally I think if there's going to be water maps it should probably 8 whale maps rather than 6 but definitely not 4.
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04 Sep 2019, 11:25

I would do this if there was an appropriate division for me to be in. Of all the NR, I like 20 the best.
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04 Sep 2019, 11:26

[TLDT]Amsterda wrote:
princeofcarthage wrote:In, no ban on civs but would like more diverse map pool

Your opinion will be taken into consideration, I know you'd like some esoc maps in the map pool but I'm not sure which if any that I would consider appropriate and I'm not sure what the consensus is regarding whether there should be some water maps or not. Personally I think if there's going to be water maps it should probably 8 whale maps rather than 6 but definitely not 4.

Theoretically (and practically) speaking most games get decided by your boom, start army, and decisions in time frame of 20-25 mins, anything exceeding that is mostly nr40 mechanics, so while China and france unless punished become practically unbeatable after 25th min, there is a good chance that depending on map somewhat relative balance could be achieved for the first few mins. To example: would be India vs port on a low hunt map is quite fair for first few mins. ( which is most likely game deciding )
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04 Sep 2019, 11:28

HeadKilla wrote:I would do this if there was an appropriate division for me to be in. Of all the NR, I like 20 the best.
Perhaps there could be a second chance tournament, would that be something of interest?
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04 Sep 2019, 11:30

Prize pool 500$?
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04 Sep 2019, 11:31

amiggo1999 wrote:Prize pool 500$?

That's what I'm thinking atm, yes.
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04 Sep 2019, 11:32

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04 Sep 2019, 11:34

[TLDT]Amsterda wrote:
HeadKilla wrote:I would do this if there was an appropriate division for me to be in. Of all the NR, I like 20 the best.
Perhaps there could be a second chance tournament, would that be something of interest?


I mean to be honest, I would need several chances beyond the first before I was playing people my level. But yes, I would participate in any event that allowed me and so would several of my friends.
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04 Sep 2019, 11:50

princeofcarthage wrote:
[TLDT]Amsterda wrote:
princeofcarthage wrote:In, no ban on civs but would like more diverse map pool

Your opinion will be taken into consideration, I know you'd like some esoc maps in the map pool but I'm not sure which if any that I would consider appropriate and I'm not sure what the consensus is regarding whether there should be some water maps or not. Personally I think if there's going to be water maps it should probably 8 whale maps rather than 6 but definitely not 4.

Theoretically (and practically) speaking most games get decided by your boom, start army, and decisions in time frame of 20-25 mins, anything exceeding that is mostly nr40 mechanics, so while China and france unless punished become practically unbeatable after 25th min, there is a good chance that depending on map somewhat relative balance could be achieved for the first few mins. To example: would be India vs port on a low hunt map is quite fair for first few mins. ( which is most likely game deciding )
Can definitely agree with that but when it comes to low hunt maps I'm reluctant to include them as I'd like a mapset which includes some of the most played maps or maps that are similar to them. I have a hard time seeing someone be particularly happy or sad regarding a win/loss on unknown for example or on some other low hunt/low resource map since it doesn't really require a skillset that I and I think most others value as much but I could be wrong on this so I don't exclude the possibility of adding some low hunt/low resource maps.
princeofcarthage wrote:Green UP

lol sorry are you still available? edit: nvm see you ingame
HeadKilla wrote:I mean to be honest, I would need several chances beyond the first before I was playing people my level. But yes, I would participate in any event that allowed me and so would several of my friends.

I don't plan on having any pr restrictions to enter so you'll definitely be allowed to participate.
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04 Sep 2019, 12:02

Who's funding this $500 prize pool? As that seems like a huge amount, EPL is $500 you have to remember.
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04 Sep 2019, 12:04

Riotcoke wrote:Who's funding this $500 prize pool?


That's what I'm wondering too
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04 Sep 2019, 12:09

amiggo1999 wrote:
Riotcoke wrote:Who's funding this $500 prize pool?


That's what I'm wondering too
Riotcoke wrote:Who's funding this $500 prize pool? As that seems like a huge amount, EPL is $500 you have to remember.
I'm assuming the price pool will be funded exclusively by me unless there's someone who wants to donate to add onto the price pool but I haven't really thought about payment options if that were to be the case and I'm assuming there'll be no donations.
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04 Sep 2019, 12:18

I know it has been shot down several times, but in my professional history, "pay to play" has always been a nice thing to offer in addition to the regular free events. Charge an entry fee, use that for increased prize support.
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04 Sep 2019, 12:22

HeadKilla wrote:I know it has been shot down several times, but in my professional history, "pay to play" has always been a nice thing to offer in addition to the regular free events. Charge an entry fee, use that for increased prize support.

If ESOC had pay to play tournaments you'd get about 8 people playing in each tournament.
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04 Sep 2019, 12:57

The only time pay to play would ever work would be if you had enough people to have a R128, and then allocate prize pools like you would for an online poker tourney aka 15-20 people getting payouts. Because most people would be just consider it a donation otherwise as they know they would never have a chance of getting their money back.
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04 Sep 2019, 13:05

wardyb1 wrote:The only time pay to play would ever work would be if you had enough people to have a R128, and then allocate prize pools like you would for an online poker tourney aka 15-20 people getting payouts. Because most people would be just consider it a donation otherwise as they know they would never have a chance of getting their money back.

In a poker tourney you can get to the top 20 some of the time due to the element of Luck that poker obviously has, however in RTS games it's kinda absolute, i'm not going to beat Rapha in a Bo5 for example.
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04 Sep 2019, 13:06

In case anyone is just skimming through the thread.
The tournament is not pay to play, the prize pool will be exclusively funded by me unless people want to donate.
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04 Sep 2019, 13:11

Riotcoke wrote:
wardyb1 wrote:The only time pay to play would ever work would be if you had enough people to have a R128, and then allocate prize pools like you would for an online poker tourney aka 15-20 people getting payouts. Because most people would be just consider it a donation otherwise as they know they would never have a chance of getting their money back.

In a poker tourney you can get to the top 20 some of the time due to the element of Luck that poker obviously has, however in RTS games it's kinda absolute, i'm not going to beat Rapha in a Bo5 for example.

Thats a very negative outlook.
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04 Sep 2019, 13:17

princeofcarthage wrote:
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wardyb1 wrote:The only time pay to play would ever work would be if you had enough people to have a R128, and then allocate prize pools like you would for an online poker tourney aka 15-20 people getting payouts. Because most people would be just consider it a donation otherwise as they know they would never have a chance of getting their money back.

In a poker tourney you can get to the top 20 some of the time due to the element of Luck that poker obviously has, however in RTS games it's kinda absolute, i'm not going to beat Rapha in a Bo5 for example.

Thats a very negative outlook.

Well it's not, when do you ever see a pr25 in the ro16?
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04 Sep 2019, 13:21

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Thats a very negative outlook.

Well it's not, when do you ever see a pr25 in the ro16?

But you're pr 25.6 so just round up to 26, see now it's so easy now you can win any tournament you want!
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04 Sep 2019, 13:23

I‘d probably play for $500
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04 Sep 2019, 13:31

Lukas_L99 wrote:I‘d probably play for $500

Good to hear, if you're confident try to convince more good players to join and the prize pool might get bigger since everything's not set in stone yet.
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04 Sep 2019, 13:40

I’d play obviously, I’d imagine 500 dollar nr20 would get at least 32 signups maybe more
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