Why is there no 10 musk shipment?

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Why is there no 10 musk shipment?

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In short:

Fortress shipments are generally worth ~1000 resources (with exceptions of course). Brit can ship 10 longbow, 2 Falcs, 5 Hus, which are all worth 1k res.

Why is there no 10 musk shipments for civs like brit? Feels like this would only have a minor impact on balance and since 9 musks are rarely shipped anyways I feel like this buff would be reasonable.

Thoughts on this?
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Avoid useless changes.
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Well what's the cost of doing it apart from 2 minutes developer time? If that's the only argument against it I see no strong argument not to do it.

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Spain with 10 musk shipment lol
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Lel I thought Spain had 9 musk. Nevermind 10 musk for spain then obviously...
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spain needs melee shipments, they lack them tbh
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querty wrote:Lel I thought Spain had 9 musk. Nevermind 10 musk for spain then obviously...

He only imagined spain with 10 musk shipment and laughed so you are not wrong
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Anyways, shipments are generally worth 1k res. It's a guideline not a rule. Giving brit one extra mosk is sort of the definition of an unnessary EP change.
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900 res is actually kinda average for a unit shipment. A 1000 res shipment is pretty good. For example 5 goons, 8 skirms, 9 ruyters, 9 rods, 3 cuirs, etc, are all roughly worth 900 res.
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theres 11 musks :D
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because fuck logic, why send 9 inferior musks when you can send 9 sepoys.
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Buffing an already viable shipment, of already above average civilizations, is risky and without practical benefit. Do we really want to make 11 Musketeers look even worse? There are plenty of more meaningful things to buff.

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Unit shipments are generally worth 600 and 900 resources respectively in colonial and fortress age. Crate shipments are usually worth 700 and 1000.
9 musks is fine, 9 sepoy is above average. Most of China shipments are above average.
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Re: Why is there no 10 musk shipment?

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It needs to be say that 900 ress shiment we see are the one of units you don't need to up most of the time. 5 huss isn't seen as especially OP despite being 1k for this very reason. Though there is plenty of shipments that aren't balanced, the dev did a very bad job here it seem. So if you get 10musk, I claim 6 abus and so on.
And since we don't want to rework the entire shipment system, we don't do it. We just change shipments when it's needed for civ balance.
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10 lbows pretty good shipment
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Garja wrote:10 lbows pretty good shipment

Too bad longbows only counter their same unit type
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Re: Why is there no 10 musk shipment?

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deleted_user wrote:
Garja wrote:10 lbows pretty good shipment

Too bad longbows only counter their same unit type

too bad there are LBs in aoe3
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I mean 5 musket riders is one of the worst valued shipments in fortress but we'd never buff it. IMO brits doesnt need better unit shipments when they already have such a strong economic potential- id estimate where 1 musk is like a second's worth of eco by the time the average brit player goes fortress
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dansil92 wrote:id estimate where 1 musk is like a second's worth of eco by the time the average brit player goes fortress

Most brit players don't have 99 vills upon hitting age 3, no.

I see your point though.
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Give spain 6 musk and 9 musk ty! Make Hispania Great Again!

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