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Re: PR question

Posted: 15 May 2018, 20:55
by jgals
jesus3 wrote:maybe shtop noobbashing, if you win vs equal or higher ranks you will actually rise more

it's not like there aren't any games for Luits


I play people of all ranks actually mostly in the MS-1st range if you look other than that day. And I've played the field marshall 3 times this week who is the highest PR in the game and may not actually deserve it but is still so good that I know I have only a small chance of winning and havent done so yet, so you cant accuse me of that

and if I do play a low rank I don't just rush them or do something totally douchey I usually play it out to age 4/5 for that reason I get a lot of them actually asking me to play even though they know they will probably lose. Thorjim gave up for a while but hes back to inviting me now

Re: PR question

Posted: 15 May 2018, 20:58
by jesus3
I advise you to chill out more, buddy

Re: PR question

Posted: 15 May 2018, 20:58
by Kaiserklein
The "field marshall" is probably around captain btw

Re: PR question

Posted: 15 May 2018, 21:01
by tabben
jgals wrote:and if I do play a low rank I don't just rush them or do something totally douchey I usually play it out to age 4/5

lol that's even worse xD

Re: PR question

Posted: 15 May 2018, 21:04
by Sargsyan
tabben wrote:
jgals wrote:and if I do play a low rank I don't just rush them or do something totally douchey I usually play it out to age 4/5

lol that's even worse xD

Thats like torturing your opponent instead of killing him fast with a headshot

Re: PR question

Posted: 15 May 2018, 23:39
by lemmings121
you are winning only 0,05~0,08 because you are playing with people 10pr lower then you. everything as expected. and then you lost to someone much higher.. and again lost only about 0,05 and NOT 0,5. big difference. again just as expected.

If you want to increase your pr, you actually need to stop caring about pr and play with good players to improve, then pr comes naturally.

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 01:10
by gibson
Sargsyan wrote:
tabben wrote:
jgals wrote:and if I do play a low rank I don't just rush them or do something totally douchey I usually play it out to age 4/5

lol that's even worse xD

Thats like torturing your opponent instead of killing him fast with a headshot
like me vs @KINGofOsmane in csgo

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 01:42
by jgals
jesus3 wrote:I advise you to chill out more, buddy

thank you jesus

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 03:39
by jgals
just encountered a smurf/troll account named "best noob award" hes only a 16 or so but has beaten me in the past with French using vil rush and incredibly annoying stunts. I always figured he had squarely beaten me with CDB upgrades and that I was just unprepared for something that dumb, but tonight I played him again and he used british. I killed towers, vils kept him off hunts and herded them all toward me while massing. I kept poking with Mace meanwhile he made 0 units. His score was pretty much in line with mine until age 3. He had no hunts, and repeatedly gotten his outposts mills/ plantations/ vils killed and suddenly a massive army of grenadiers charges my base. I repelled that, and killed a few more waves. More of the same, killing all his buildings nonstop and vils. chasing him all over the map etc. He had a few more plantation/mills I found. Then he ages to four and pulls out amassive dragoon grenadier army on me. I was like WTF at this point how is he getting these units

At the end of game I accused him of cheating he offered a rEmatch and recorded game, and even denied it when I spotted 161 free units in his column..... kind of weird since he did not have any shipments in his deck, and brits dont spawn legendary units at all like warchiefs. but then I saw that my free units was exactly the same number, from all the skull knights I made. And somehow, even with me firepit booming 3 TCs, him having no eco upgrade cards in his deck and continuously losing vils he gathered more than twice what I did.

so what I am wondering is did he really cheat and somehow get exactly the same amount of free units as me or is that some kind of game glitch that it shows that? Maybe he is just a smurf who outplayed me somehow?
How does somebody stay in fortress the whole game and continue to be able to build plantations and mills nonstop after they get destroyed and then outgather ? when they don't even have upgrade cards for mill plantation and they cost so much wood? I frankly don't even know how was able to max his towers nonstop in colonial

I don't want to start any more threads at the moment but if anyone has an opinion LMK

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 03:58
by deleted_user
#bjg

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 04:48
by gibson
He probably didn’t cheat

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 04:49
by jgals
deleted_user wrote:#bjg

why are all these millennials messing with me with jargon i dont understand on the internet tonight

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 04:50
by jgals
gibson wrote:He probably didn’t cheat


so if it says free units 161 its a glitch?

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 06:32
by Gichtenlord
Man I dont cheat

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 06:40
by jgals
Gichtenlord wrote:Man I dont cheat

you just get the same number of free units as me magically? why did you beat its then lose 50 1v1s in a rowto noobs btw. ok so maybe you really are that good to lose thousands of resources in buildings over and over again with no eco cards in deck and even on mill plantation to out gather me three times. I guess it's possible since i'm not a high rank, but one thing is clear, stay clear of this guy, either a hacker or a major smurf/ troll. Guarantee you that even if you do beat him hell make you hunt down his last vil, probably hack for eough res to rebuild and spawn units in the meantime too

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 07:29
by iLolicon
jgals wrote:
Gichtenlord wrote:Man I dont cheat

you just get the same number of free units as me magically? why did you beat its then lose 50 1v1s in a rowto noobs btw. ok so maybe you really are that good to lose thousands of resources in buildings over and over again with no eco cards in deck and even on mill plantation to out gather me three times. I guess it's possible since i'm not a high rank, but one thing is clear, stay clear of this guy, either a hacker or a major smurf/ troll. Guarantee you that even if you do beat him hell make you hunt down his last vil, probably hack for eough res to rebuild and spawn units in the meantime too


Hate to break it to you but you're just bad. BestNoobAward is legit and he isn't a smurf either, he's just another noob and he only uses troll strats.

I can sympathize with you seeing as I also lost to an awful spain play of his once when I was newer, but he isn't a cheat. Try to not take PR too seriously for the time-being if you actually want to improve.

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 07:54
by deleted_user0
gibson wrote:He probably didn’t cheat


163 free units without unit shipments is kinda weird though

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 08:18
by Ashvin
umeu wrote:
gibson wrote:He probably didn’t cheat


163 free units without unit shipments is kinda weird though

And tell me why would you believe this guy?

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 09:09
by deleted_user0
Ashvin wrote:
umeu wrote:
gibson wrote:He probably didn’t cheat


163 free units without unit shipments is kinda weird though

And tell me why would you believe this guy?


i'm not saying i do. but if what he says is true, and i have no reason to assume its true, nor do i have reason to assume it isnt, then that's weird.

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 12:32
by KINGofOsmane
gibson wrote:
Sargsyan wrote:
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Thats like torturing your opponent instead of killing him fast with a headshot
like me vs @KINGofOsmane in csgo

come at me bro

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 14:16
by jgals
umeu wrote:
Ashvin wrote:
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And tell me why would you believe this guy?


i'm not saying i do. but if what he says is true, and i have no reason to assume its true, nor do i have reason to assume it isnt, then that's weird.

The other times I played he seems legit just a troll but if there is no explanation for all the free units I can't play him anymore I thought maybe someone would know about that

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 14:36
by Kaiserklein
Next time take screenshots of the post game stats and we might be able to help you

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 22:22
by _H2O
Is there some “free units” stat I don’t know about?

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 22:54
by Kaiserklein
Yeah that's in the "resources" tab. When people spawn units with moesbar hack (or at least with some version of the hack) the units are added in the free units stat. That's basically a stat that usually sums up all units (not only military, all kind of unit) shipped, units from treasures, as well as, I think, all units granted from a tech (consulate unit techs, big buttons, minutemen, age up rewards...). So essentially every unit that wasn't directly trained.
I'm just not exactly sure how it works, for example: does the age up tc wagon from brits count as a free unit? Do the warchief pets count? But usually, it gives you a rough approximation of how many units your opponent shipped, which you can compare with how many he could possibly ship. I've actually got a good example for this:
wouter free units.jpg

The guy had 80 free units in colonial as france (I still had aoe in french at that point, but it's the last column on the right). You can usually get 24 max (3cdbs + 4cdbs + 8bows + 3huss + 6mm). You can round that up to, say, 30, in case there were some free unit treasures. But with 80, you're 100% sure he was spawning units. I had 18, so probably 3 + 4 cdbs + 3 huss + 8 bows.

The same works with "free resources" btw, I'm not sure exactly how it's counted but I'm guess it's basically all the crates you shipped/got from age ups/got from techs, as well as the starting crates. So if the guy spawned like, say, 5k worth of crates, you should easily spot it thanks to that stat, adding up all the crates from his deck + crates from the age up and comparing. Here we both had 2400 free res, which probably means 600 starting res + 400w age up + 700w + 700g shipments.

One thing though: it's fucked up for russia and china I think, it just inflates free units like crazy and then it looks like the guy was cheating.

Re: PR question

Posted: 16 May 2018, 23:59
by jesus3
I still advise you all to chill out some more, it's good. You should try it.