Garja's Spain v Breeze's Ports FI on hudson bay

[[Armag] diarouga]

I didn't wall lol(should have done that) but 3tcs were together with a fort and I snowballed 26-30 goons and 4-5 HCs

Well see, even without walling you win against Sioux

[Ashvin]

I win again against germany on ESOC Florida with this xD. It's kinda ez to do it on esoc maps bc of hunts. Thanks again for recs and advice rouga xD

[almalek]

holly shitt thats hudson bay!!

[[Armag] diarouga]

I win again against germany on ESOC Florida with this xD. It's kinda ez to do it on esoc maps bc of hunts. Thanks again for recs and advice rouga xD

Haha well played. Did you go for the sea version on Florida?
The good thing about this strat is that it's not that easy to do, you can go very greedy/very safe, so you can always improve the strat depending on your opponent.

[Ashvin]

I wanted to but I messed up in decks will create a sea version deck too

[[Armag] diarouga]

Here is another Port FI game I played today vs tabben who played France on Kamchatka.
He did a very good job at controling the map, so I couldn't gather outside my base. I probably shouldn't have tried to go out with my vills and build mills instead, but it still worked somehow.

If you want to see the FI in a specific MU, ask and I might try to play this MU. Else I'll try to post a water FI or TP FI rec.
@Ashvin

[Ashvin]

wow thanks rouga, I have so far tried this with fre, ger, sioux, dutch and able to pull it off, with some variations bc of maps and saloon unit. My current problem is low eco in team games, for some reason other ports player manage to gather more than me.
This is one of my decks.


But yeah some more FI recs would be awesome. The best thing I like about this strat is it helps me to think on how to adapt to the player and his style which is different every game.

EDIT: just won it against India but he was 2 PR below me.

[[Armag] diarouga]

wow thanks rouga, I have so far tried this with fre, ger, sioux, dutch and able to pull it off, with some variations bc of maps and saloon unit. My current problem is low eco in team games, for some reason other ports player manage to gather more than me.
This is one of my decks.


But yeah some more FI recs would be awesome. The best thing I like about this strat is it helps me to think on how to adapt to the player and his style which is different every game.

EDIT: just won it against India but he was 2 PR below me.

Well it doesn't make a lot of sense to go saloon when you FI because Saloon units are age 3 units.
This strat is not designed for team play, that's probably why it doesn't work . They shouldn't outgather you though.
About your deck, I'm not sure whether it is a 1v1 deck or a team deck.

For a 1v1 deck:
You don't want land grab, nor the 3 plantation shipments since you won't need them until very late game. You need the Fort however (it's a must in 1v1), and I'd recommend bastion (in age 4) and 2 towers or 8 bows in age 2 in case you need to defend hard.

As for team, you have too many unit shipments. For instance, 5 goons and 8 goons aren't useful in team, you should get more eco upgrades. You don't need land grab either, it's just a bad shipment.

[Ashvin]

No I wasn't talking about this strat in particular, just general team games where I'd go to fortress by 6.40-7min and then stay there for a while making goons and then going age4, I mde saloon in this game on Texas simply because there were so many mines and less food.

[[Armag] diarouga]

No I wasn't talking about this strat in particular, just general team games where I'd go to fortress by 6.40-7min and then stay there for a while making goons and then going age4, I mde saloon in this game on Texas simply because there were so many mines and less food.

Yea Texas is awkward. You want to get the control of the TPs and switch to mills very early.
In general you want to send refrigeration very early with Ports in team game because it's a huge eco boost.

[[Armag] diarouga]

Here is an example of a water FI vs Germany.
tabben told me that he doesn't have a lot of experience against water play, which is why it might seem a bit one sided. Still, he played well although he got counter strat'd.

[HUMMAN]

How about german revolt with mortars against port water fi? Mortars are great against turtling and ships.

[[Armag] diarouga]

How about german revolt with mortars against port water fi? Mortars are great against turtling and ships.

He can't revolt and then go mortars. He has to go mortars first, which means that Port will have the time to get to age 4 and spam goons, and then the units from the revolt won't do much. Goons can just hit and run forever because they outrange the milicia, and you make freagates to defend the coast.
Honestly, it wouldn't work.

[Garja]

German revo gives mortars

[[Armag] diarouga]

Ok, still I don't think it would work.

[gibson]

Vs port land turtle German revolt can work but I can't see it working vs water cause once he monitor snipes ur mortars you have no way of putting him off water

[Ashvin]

Garja posting in a thread 7 days after he was tagged, that too completely unrelated xD

[[Armag] diarouga]

Vs port land turtle German revolt can work but I can't see it working vs water cause once he monitor snipes ur mortars you have no way of putting him off water

Yea, no way it works against work.
Against land I'm not sure. You're going to revolt after I age 4 I feel, and my fort/TCs are going to buy an insane amount of time, and by that time mm/100 range goons/HC will probably do the job. It's worth testing it though.

[yemshi]

Meh Ger FI is faster than port FI. MM have a bonus multiplier vs goons and outranging isnt going to work forever. Together with the 10 guard huss you gonna run into some serious problems especially since ger still has the extra uhlans.
You literally age up with 6 imperial mortars lol. TC die in one shot same for the fort.

SW turning into one CM is just bullshit though. I'd say that on low hunt maps it could work since you are port with 35v and 20 goons vs a whole revolt army.

[Ashvin]

I think ports can take it all with CM+goons+hc

[[Armag] diarouga]

TP FI on Arkansas vs Jap eco FI (600/4/4/7)

[gibson]

Vs port land turtle German revolt can work but I can't see it working vs water cause once he monitor snipes ur mortars you have no way of putting him off water

Yea, now way it works against work.
Against land I'm not sure. You're going to revolt after I age 4 I feel, and my fort/TCs are going to buy an insane amount of time, and by that time mm/100 range goons/HC will probably do the job. It's worth testing it though.

it might only work vs trolls like masterchif who waste cards on advanced buildings and shit

[Ashvin]

TP FI on Arkansas vs Jap eco FI (600/4/4/7)

I really don't think ports should win this mu lol

[[Armag] diarouga]

TP FI on Arkansas vs Jap eco FI (600/4/4/7)

I really don't think ports should win this mu lol

They shouldn't on std maps. But on water map, I think they have some good chances (they can outboom, and I'd say that in age 4, they do quite well vs Jap).
On TP maps I'm not sure, but if you think about it, 3 TPs with stagecoach is almost like a water boom, so maybe they can. Outta misplayed this, but this was quite Port favoured.