what is the best lame stratigy against russia

[MaJoOorchEf_GaZa]

please give me any strategy with Ottoman, Dutch or any other civ which can counter Russian in an easy way I really hate when Russia move in and then out by killing like 2 or 3 vills I wan any lame strategy no matter it's going with Ottoman,Dutch or Spanish I just want something which can work every time

[Googol]

Don't fight them, at winter and you should win.

Ottoman, classic Jan cannon FF I guess. Dutch is a bit hard, ultimately you want to go for skirm goon age 3 which counters Russia.

[dutchwraptor]

you only make hussar. if you play japan, you make samurai

[Sargsyan]

mm to their fb

[DjinnOfSorrow]

Naked ff. Pop spahi and mams. Gg lol

[DjinnOfSorrow]

Or just put up a small wall. That should last you until he gets opris. Don't bother upgrading it, you could fast revolt in the time it takes russia to take down 1 wall.

[KINGofOsmane]

just mm

[HUMMAN]

CM holds well. If he is all in, you can build outposts with dutch pretty fun.

[Amsel_]

Disciple rush!

[[Armag] diarouga]

On the RE I'd say:
Iro: Just go 15vills, TP in age 1, fast age up, then send 4 kanyas, make units (aennas mostly+the big button) and send unit shipments. At some point you might want to transition into a late colonial with 600w (for more TPs if you want to go stagecoach, or stable+market else) and 5v.
That's a basic BO, not the best one but it should work.

Otto: Go for the tower ff 3v/700c/700w/8jans/2falcs/1000c/5mams. It should just work fine too vs 95% of the Iro players.

These are the 2 easiest. Other than that you can try some French semi ff, Aztecs late colonial builds, India agra builds etc, but it's much harder mechanically.

[ChewSick]

bombards

[bwinner]

bombards

Indeed I think the best is to start tower ff as Otto and stay age 3 if russia Plays age 2/go age 4 if russia Plays age 3
So easy for Otto and unwinnable for russia

[Googol]

Once you will get to higher levels you'll realise that Russia rather underperforms compared to the other civs, and your real pain will come once you meet Prussia

[bwinner]

Yeah the problem is that there is many builds you can't really deal with as russia (ger age 2 timing, Otto ff, spain ff, india defensiv build, dutch turtle when there is no stagecoach, some chinese ff...).
I feel like that's not the case with other civ, where even though you lose some MU, you don't lose them that hard.

[[Armag] diarouga]

Yeah the problem is that there is many builds you can't really deal with as russia (ger age 2 timing, Otto ff, spain ff, india defensiv build, dutch turtle when there is no stagecoach, some chinese ff...).
I feel like that's not the case with other civ, where even though you lose some MU, you don't lose them that hard.

You can beat the Ger age 2 timings, Spain ff, India defensive builds though, if you outplay a bit, it's not totally impossible. And you should actually have an easy time vs China ff.

[bwinner]

Yeah the problem is that there is many builds you can't really deal with as russia (ger age 2 timing, Otto ff, spain ff, india defensiv build, dutch turtle when there is no stagecoach, some chinese ff...).
I feel like that's not the case with other civ, where even though you lose some MU, you don't lose them that hard.

You can beat the Ger age 2 timings, Spain ff, India defensive builds though, if you outplay a bit, it's not totally impossible. And you should actually have an easy time vs China ff.

Russia tier 1

[jgals]

the sioux cav splitting stranglehold

[jgals]

Don't fight them, at winter and you should win.

Ottoman, classic Jan cannon FF I guess. Dutch is a bit hard, ultimately you want to go for skirm goon age 3 which counters Russia.

really? i feel like he would way outmass with strelets and unlesss you had walled skirts would lose to mAss

[zosgan]

cdbs

[jgals]

you only make hussar. if you play japan, you make samurai

thats interesting . thought sam were never viable then again russian units suck...are you joking?

[[Armag] diarouga]

Don't fight them, at winter and you should win.

Ottoman, classic Jan cannon FF I guess. Dutch is a bit hard, ultimately you want to go for skirm goon age 3 which counters Russia.

really? i feel like he would way outmass with strelets and unlesss you had walled skirts would lose to mAss

Skirms have more range so if you have a good mass it's ok. Also since you'll have a better eco you can actually match his match (that's if you reach the 3rd age alive though).

[deleted_user]

I would never skirm goon vs russia

[Gendarme]

Skirms are so fucking overrated, especially against Russia who do not even have skirms to threaten you with a "skirm war". Goons are decent at worst against everything Russia has; make a shitload of goons and take it from there.

[mmTakezo]

On the RE I'd say:
Iro: Just go 15vills, TP in age 1, fast age up, then send 4 kanyas, make units (aennas mostly+the big button) and send unit shipments. At some point you might want to transition into a late colonial with 600w (for more TPs if you want to go stagecoach, or stable+market else) and 5v.
That's a basic BO, not the best one but it should work.

Otto: Go for the tower ff 3v/700c/700w/8jans/2falcs/1000c/5mams. It should just work fine too vs 95% of the Iro players.

These are the 2 easiest. Other than that you can try some French semi ff, Aztecs late colonial builds, India agra builds etc, but it's much harder mechanically.

And as Japan????

[deleted_user]

On the RE I'd say:
Iro: Just go 15vills, TP in age 1, fast age up, then send 4 kanyas, make units (aennas mostly+the big button) and send unit shipments. At some point you might want to transition into a late colonial with 600w (for more TPs if you want to go stagecoach, or stable+market else) and 5v.
That's a basic BO, not the best one but it should work.

Otto: Go for the tower ff 3v/700c/700w/8jans/2falcs/1000c/5mams. It should just work fine too vs 95% of the Iro players.

These are the 2 easiest. Other than that you can try some French semi ff, Aztecs late colonial builds, India agra builds etc, but it's much harder mechanically.

And as Japan????

1) ask opponent to respectfully resign
2) if does not resign respectfully resign