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If you need to pay resources to view your oppenent's deck, (not piroshiki) how much resources would you be willing to pay? And do you think you would do risky strats such as fi, mercs more often?

thats a good question

Nothing, you can't afford it early and later game it becomes irrelevant. It just makes scouting marginally more important. Personally I think it's dumb you can see the other person's deck. It's free, zero skill scouting.

gibson wrote:Nothing, you can't afford it early and later game it becomes irrelevant. It just makes scouting marginally more important. Personally I think it's dumb you can see the other person's deck. It's free, zero skill scouting.

I disagree, I think its worth 500f before 8min mark

800f before the 2 min mark

Maybe 600f by the 12 min mark

Or 200f by 20 min

Worth 3 starting villagers? Only 300f

a hidden deck tournament would be funny lol. not sure how it can be organized. perhaps with everyone recording their pov to ensure nobody checks the other player's deck

or just a showmatch, where both players stream.

gibson wrote:Nothing, you can't afford it early and later game it becomes irrelevant. It just makes scouting marginally more important. Personally I think it's dumb you can see the other person's deck. It's free, zero skill scouting.

what you mean by later game?

gibson wrote:Nothing, you can't afford it early and later game it becomes irrelevant.

Lol how can you say something like that; here are the first things that popped into my mind that you would like to know mid game:


-What kind of mercs they have in deck
-Do they have water cards
-Do they have eco cards
-Do they have any age 4 unit cards
-If they are Aizamk you want to check %100 anyway

It's hard to say because I would pay different things in different situations. I would say 100 resources would be a maximum most of the time; maybe in some extreme situations up to 200, but that would be really pushing it.

I think I would do more risky strats; whenever I pick an FI deck, I feel very insecure because I feel like the enemy can just take one look at my deck and go "ok I know what's going on", so I am hoping he just doesn't check.

umeu wrote:a hidden deck tournament would be funny lol. not sure how it can be organized. perhaps with everyone recording their pov to ensure nobody checks the other player's deck

or just a showmatch, where both players stream.

Yeah that would be insanely cool

the game would definitely be better if you couldn't check decks tbh.

I always check, but rarely find useful information.
In the rare event I can see an FI coming, I don't know what to do anyway.

Main reason I check it is so I can feel better than most other noobs and get a "at least I don't make that mistake" feeling.

Id pay max 50 resources for it. Its generally really useless since any non standard shipment is just weak.

umeu wrote:the game would definitely be better if you couldn't check decks tbh.

yes seing score and decks dont have a place in a rts

It is a needed feature because of how extreme certain playstyles can be. Also there is some dtrategy to playing with the opponent deck.

Snuden wrote:I always check, but rarely find useful information.
In the rare event I can see an FI coming, I don't know what to do anyway.

Main reason I check it is so I can feel better than most other noobs and get a "at least I don't make that mistake" feeling.

Recently, as a means to have more fun, I completely ignore my opponents strat and just execute whatever I have in mind.

deleted_user wrote:Worth 3 starting villagers?

@Lord_Dyzio

I think it would be cool if you could see enemy deck when you build church.

Garja wrote:It is a needed feature because of how extreme certain playstyles can be. Also there is some dtrategy to playing with the opponent deck.

Is'nt the extreme what makes it beautiful? Imagine any card game, (yugi-oh etc.) where you play with open deck. All the suprise is gone, but design is such good still unit pop outs and tactical cards excite me.

Seeing the full deck early makes no sense.

lordraphael wrote:

umeu wrote:the game would definitely be better if you couldn't check decks tbh.

yes seing score and decks dont have a place in a rts

And how many tps, thats always bugged me. Removes the point of scouting, well some.

This game has such shit age 1 balance that removing that amount of baseline scouting information could run into balance issues.

DjinnOfSorrow wrote:

lordraphael wrote:

umeu wrote:the game would definitely be better if you couldn't check decks tbh.

yes seing score and decks dont have a place in a rts

And how many tps, thats always bugged me. Removes the point of scouting, well some.

1. I mean its already pretty much impossible to do some proxy strats because of how small maps are and also because theres not really any super surprising units that can be made, unlike in sc2, but add free information over decks score and tp to that and it becomes completly impossible