Would you like a winter or spring tournament?

Winter
44
51%
Spring
42
49%
 
Total votes: 86

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Brazil macacoalbino
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09 Nov 2018, 12:51

Yo, I think I recall someone’s idea to make a small event with games played on fast mode. Did that ever happen? Could it ever happen in the future also?
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09 Nov 2018, 13:02

games' length isn't a problem, rather the number of series played
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United States of America dicktator_
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09 Nov 2018, 18:32

I'd like 1-2 big tournaments a year but with smaller events during downtime. The weekend tournaments were fun.
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France Lecastete
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09 Nov 2018, 18:47

What about doing a 2v2 tourney for winter ? :)
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09 Nov 2018, 19:04

first of all i dont like the argument we need big tourney to keep ESOC alive. The thing is big tourneys have only "big" prize pool, level of players number of top players is not so big.(no bsop, h20, samwise, etc.) What i see is many PR 35+ players which form a solid competitive base, so do tourneys to reward them in terms of not playing vs. lows or small events like SS, weekend tourneys. Why waste big money on it if the same competitive player base would play small tourneys(with 200 dollar prize pool) anyway. Players like lordraphael were not even interested/avaible in joining weekend tourneys, let players who like aoe earn some money and they perform high level games too. I dont know main aim of big prize pool tourneys(increasing popularity? increasing competitive scene?) there are better ways to these things with the same amount of money. For example SaturdaySmackdown is probably more effective in terms of increasing popularity/interest, or advertising etc.
Instead making 3000-4000 dollar tourney once a year(or less), advertising and announcing it before may increase playerbase and viewers. Many people i know who plays aoe series are unaware of aoe3 tourneys you do.
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09 Nov 2018, 19:42

ya I play for the competition, If tournament was once a year there would be basically no reason for me to play the game.
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09 Nov 2018, 20:18

giveuanxiety wrote:ya I play for the competition, If tournament was once a year there would be basically no reason for me to play the game.

Keep in mind we are talking about the major tournaments here. The ones with 120+ players and a prizepool of 500-1500 bucks. When we don't host a major, we could always host smaller tournaments, weekend tours, invitationals, smackdowns, ladder tournaments and other stuff. Or are you playing specifically for the majors?
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09 Nov 2018, 20:35

imo 1-2 big tourneys would be the best, so staff and Donators can rest , and also the hype has time to build up.
i like snudens idea of creating some smaller tournaments(Maybe you only cast the semifinals/finals) where also low-pr Players can Play, with some Kind of skill restiction(only >pr25 or sth)


Edit: if you do a winter Tournament, Keep in mind that a lot of ppl are on hoildays with Family etc during Chrismas and new-year so it might be more difficult to
schedule the Matches.
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Canada Mitoe
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09 Nov 2018, 21:21

I kind of understand where GUA is coming from. Weekend tournaments, invitationals, and other events are not always open to everyone to compete in all the time, and the competition doesn't always feel the same. As a player I totally get how it would be a bit de-motivating.
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09 Nov 2018, 22:47

how about $500 tournament for winter and then a bigger one with $1000+ for late spring?
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10 Nov 2018, 02:22

[quote="Cometk"][b]Reasons for a Winter Tourney[/b]
- Keeps up ESOC's momentum and January is the most active time on ESO
- It's the better season for gaming, people are more likely to be indoors
- Players who were eliminated in Autumn early have been waiting longer to play tournament matches than Top Players

[b]Reasons for Spring Tourney[/b]
- Doesn't spend as much money
- Gives us some breathing room and doesn't overwhelm players, organizers, and viewers
- Can simply conduct other, smaller events (weekend tours, invitationals) to hold over players and viewers in anticipation for the next big event[/quote]

Actually, I changed my mind; I didn't think about January being the most popular month. I think we should have winter tourney, soon.
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10 Nov 2018, 12:16

Yay, ovi broke the forums!
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10 Nov 2018, 12:50

Ovi check your quote tags please :(
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10 Nov 2018, 13:26

Maybe a small 16 player invitational for winter? Seeding could be i.e top 8 last tournament, 2nd chance winner, 3 wild card invitations and 4 (or invites too) last spots could have a small qualifier if needed.
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10 Nov 2018, 13:29

yea i want more of these 1 week/weekend type tournaments. i like the grand season thing a lot, although the setup needs some tweaking (no koth tbh, just add some special things like TWC only or that type of stuff)
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Italy Garja
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10 Nov 2018, 14:28

Just adding an idea here, but should consider doing expansion based tourneys. Games wuold be more balanced but entertaining at the same time.
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10 Nov 2018, 14:43

Garja wrote:Just adding an idea here, but should consider doing expansion based tourneys. Games wuold be more balanced but entertaining at the same time.

As in limit all players to a single culture, like the ESOC WarChiefs Classic?
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Italy Garja
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10 Nov 2018, 14:51

Yes, but without fancy rules on MUs.
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France Kaiserklein
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10 Nov 2018, 15:13

edeholland wrote:Ovi check your quote tags please :(

Tbh the point of BBCode is that it prevents users from injecting some code through the field, so I don't understand how Ovi's BBCode can break the forums' HTML/CSS. There must be something really wrong
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10 Nov 2018, 15:39

Just fixed it. I am a god.
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10 Nov 2018, 15:40

momuuu wrote:Yay, ovi broke the forums!

Finally my plan is complete! I have been an underling of Neuron ever since he got kicked off, and now revenge
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10 Nov 2018, 22:05

Weekend tournaments are basically pointless to me. I currently work every other weekend so that alone eliminates half of those tours for me. Then on my off weekends I want to be out doing something instead of setting a really long time commitment to aoe3. 16 man tours obviously pointless to me as I would not play in them. (Also someone saying why not have seasonal tours and winter prize of $500. Serious... the AOE3 community is for the most part in mid 20's to early 30's we have careers and one person can donate $500 for a tournament. That's not a lot of money for a tournament, people were getting made at the last tour start thinking OMG $1600 we wont have money for any more tournaments, relax people we built a good community here where most viewers are in mid 20s-30s and make some money and are happy to support a game that has provided them with lots of joy in their life.
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Germany QueenOfdestiny
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10 Nov 2018, 22:15

We will all of you inform soon what result we have for the next tournament.
We try to plan everything a bit a head. Let's spoiler a bit
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Let's hope something comes true!
Thanks a lot for everyone who bring up new ideas. They all welcome and we take all of them into account.
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Germany Lukas_L99
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10 Nov 2018, 22:30

QueenOfdestiny wrote:Team tournament


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United States of America YungPinch
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11 Nov 2018, 10:45

Since I saw a lot of ppl talking about it during streams I would like to see one fixed map just to try it out. (Idk but I think a fixed map should be easier to create than a "real" map)
Maybe it will be complete bs but maybe it will be cool who knows. It would be something new and exciting for sure.
Could use it in one of the smaller tourneys or in the first rounds of a bigger tourney (Can always cut it if it doesnt work at all)

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