Spahis deserve better

[Garja]

Rather than more expensive, they provide less units for the same cost. 5 infinite for 1200f seems reasonable. Or 4 for 1000f.

[deleted_user0]

Infinite spahi shipment sucks anyway cause almost every civ goes for goon-dominant counter army vs otto

[Hazza54321]

Yeah was gonna say give them another unit they delete vs someone making goons

[Garja]

Infinite spahi shipment sucks anyway cause almost every civ goes for goon-dominant counter army vs otto

That's not great logic. You're fine vs goons with pure jans and something to limit raids (walls, TCs, outposts). The problem is vs skirms or skirm+goons. In which case otto needs jans+something. Adding more spahis would help in that sense.

[aqwer]

Imo, change rr to 20% att to 36 hp to 800 pop to 4 siege to 30 and cost to 200f 200c and trainable in stable. Remove self healing and auto upgrade and spahi shipment in age 3 except 3 spahi for 500f

[Papist]

Doesn't the urumi card get more expensive each time you send it? If so, it might make sense to do the same to spahi. You could have 6 spahi for 1200 food and increase the cost by 200 every time the card gets sent. It starts out as an amazing bargain but your returns rapidly diminish. It also prevents you from massing too many spahis too quickly.

[Garja]

It doesnt get more expensive in terms of resources, but rather each shipment requires more xp than the previous one.

[aqwer]

I think making spahi trainable in stable is the way to go.
Their auto heal and upgrade should be removed.
I think we can tweak it a bit.
175f 175c, 4pop, 36 att, 800 hp

[Kaiserklein]

jesus christ

[chronique]

I think making spahi trainable in stable is the way to go.
Their auto heal and upgrade should be removed.
I think we can tweak it a bit.
175f 175c, 4pop, 36 att, 800 hp

It's was fun at start but now is getting boring, can you stop with that? Spahi aren't designed in this way.

[howlingwolfpaw]

I think spahi do deserve more as well, as the way I have played with them pretty much you have to go for an all spahi build that is very strong but has a timing, or just not use them at all. And its a really cool unit.

I think an infinite 3 spahi, for free is a pretty neat idea, that wont let spahi get too over powered yet allow otto to use them to strengthen their composition and give the enemy something to micro around. 3 spahi put in the right mix of units is going to be a very useful swing for any battle

[aqwer]

I think making spahi trainable in stable is the way to go.
Their auto heal and upgrade should be removed.
I think we can tweak it a bit.
175f 175c, 4pop, 36 att, 800 hp

It's was fun at start but now is getting boring, can you stop with that? Spahi aren't designed in this way.

Not designed this way
So Sioux karni mata teepee are there by design or the developers send a secret memo to EP team for that change.
Such a hypocrisy.

[chronique]

Not designed this way
So Sioux karni mata teepee are there by design or the developers send a secret memo to EP team for that change.
Such a hypocrisy.

I'am not sure i want arg with somone who use sophisme everytime but will try. I have never said i was agree with sioux balence (especialfy for the teepee).

[aqwer]

Not designed this way
So Sioux karni mata teepee are there by design or the developers send a secret memo to EP team for that change.
Such a hypocrisy.

I'am not sure i want arg with somone who use sophisme everytime but will try. I have never said i was agree with sioux balence (especialfy for the teepee).

But they are there. Also otto needs spahi bcz two main otto units are nerfed.

[chronique]

But they are there. Also otto needs spahi bcz two main otto units are nerfed.

Otto are bad? no, so no need buff, end of story.

[Kaiserklein]

@chronique just don't bother

[amiggo1999]

I agree with @aqwer
While we're at it we should also consider making sirmusket a mod of ESOC

[princeofcarthage]

Spahis are worth like 400+ food, not 280. 6 spahis cost 1200f to ship, how would 7 infinite spahis for 750f be balanced lol

Spahis do cost 280f only.

[Kaiserklein]

Spahis are worth like 400+ food, not 280. 6 spahis cost 1200f to ship, how would 7 infinite spahis for 750f be balanced lol

Spahis do cost 280f only.

I said "worth", not what they "cost". They're definitely not "worth" 280f, that's barely more than a hussar. Spahis are basically a 400 res unit.
Besides when you ship 5 spahis for 1000f + 1 shipment (1000 res), they cost 400 res.

[lordraphael]

Spahis are worth like 400+ food, not 280. 6 spahis cost 1200f to ship, how would 7 infinite spahis for 750f be balanced lol

Spahis do cost 280f only.

its a homecity shipment so you have to factor in roughly 9 res for III shipment and 1.2 k for IV meaning 5 spahis are worth like 1.9 to 2k res aka 400 food

[zoom]

The unit technically costs 280c, but it's valued at 400res for the shipments, from what I can tell.

[princeofcarthage]

Okay, yeah I didn't factor in the shipment cost.

[fightinfrenchman]

Spahi are op in collo

[jesus3]

This is bonkers, I now see two threads about buffing otto on my feed.

[duckzilla]

Ceterum censeo, Ottoman esse buffendam.