Smackdown #7 Normal Supremacy
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Smackdown #7 Normal Supremacy
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Smackdown 7 will air at 16:00 GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oALr8pqx-hU
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To vote on future Smackdowns formats, join my Discord and add thumbs up/down emoji to the options in the #vote-on-smackdowns-here channel: https://discord.gg/4swTHVY. Currently 'Who's the best coach' is leading by a landslide so has been scheduled! However, it's still pretty close between the next few. The vote will end pretty soon and the top results will be taken to the Patrons to decide the format for Smackdown 8.
CURRENT STANDINGS:
1st - Who's the best coach? - Two medium level players play normal supremacy but each are in voice chat with a top level player advising their every move [is scheduled] (43 votes)
2nd - Districts: Players start with two 2 TCs (29 votes)
3rd - An Interesting Fort: Players start with a fort wagon that can be placed in age 1 (26 votes)
4th - Free Mills and Plantations: Mills, plantations, farms & rice paddies cost no resources (with a build limit of 10) (25 votes)
5th - Settler Deficit: Villagers cannot be trained! You start with 30/40/50 (numbers tbd) (21 votes)
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Looking to record Smackdown 7 before Sunday (obviously )
This will be normal supremacy but with updated politicians (played on Smackdown patch - see below)
FORMAT:
Gamemode: Ordinary Supremacy, played on Smackdown Patch (new/adjusted Fortress Age politicians)
Patch: Smackdown Patch (available in the EP launcher 'tools')
Series: Best of 7 (first to four victories)
Civ Rules: Players will be able to use all 14 civs but cannot use civs they have already won a game with.
MAP POOL
Players will veto 1 map each from the pool below. (Whisper me your vetos on the day)
Map 1: Summer Kamchatka
Map 2: Baja California
Map 3: Deccan
Map 4: Thar Desert
Map 5: Fixed New England
Map 6: High Plains
Map 7: Pampas Sierras
Map 8: Fertile Cresent
Map 9: Florida
Smackdown 7 will air at 16:00 GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oALr8pqx-hU
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To vote on future Smackdowns formats, join my Discord and add thumbs up/down emoji to the options in the #vote-on-smackdowns-here channel: https://discord.gg/4swTHVY. Currently 'Who's the best coach' is leading by a landslide so has been scheduled! However, it's still pretty close between the next few. The vote will end pretty soon and the top results will be taken to the Patrons to decide the format for Smackdown 8.
CURRENT STANDINGS:
1st - Who's the best coach? - Two medium level players play normal supremacy but each are in voice chat with a top level player advising their every move [is scheduled] (43 votes)
2nd - Districts: Players start with two 2 TCs (29 votes)
3rd - An Interesting Fort: Players start with a fort wagon that can be placed in age 1 (26 votes)
4th - Free Mills and Plantations: Mills, plantations, farms & rice paddies cost no resources (with a build limit of 10) (25 votes)
5th - Settler Deficit: Villagers cannot be trained! You start with 30/40/50 (numbers tbd) (21 votes)
_______________________________
Looking to record Smackdown 7 before Sunday (obviously )
This will be normal supremacy but with updated politicians (played on Smackdown patch - see below)
FORMAT:
Gamemode: Ordinary Supremacy, played on Smackdown Patch (new/adjusted Fortress Age politicians)
Patch: Smackdown Patch (available in the EP launcher 'tools')
Series: Best of 7 (first to four victories)
Civ Rules: Players will be able to use all 14 civs but cannot use civs they have already won a game with.
MAP POOL
Players will veto 1 map each from the pool below. (Whisper me your vetos on the day)
Map 1: Summer Kamchatka
Map 2: Baja California
Map 3: Deccan
Map 4: Thar Desert
Map 5: Fixed New England
Map 6: High Plains
Map 7: Pampas Sierras
Map 8: Fertile Cresent
Map 9: Florida
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
SMACKDOWN PATCH - ADJUSTED FORTRESS POLITICIANS:
Colonial Age Politician Changes:
*Existing Colonial Age Politician adjustments: https://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=16071
New Adjusted Euro Fortress Age Politician Changes:
*General changes: 'Slow age' times changed to 100s (down from 110s)
*The Exiled Prince: 'Fast' Age' up time changed to 50s (up from 40s)
*Mohawk Statesman: Grants 7 Native Iroquois Tomahawks (changed from 3 manlets & 2 native scouts or something)
*The Gentlemen Pirate: Grants 1 privateer & 3 barbary corsairs (changed from 1 privateer & 2 barbary corsairs)
*The Admiral of the Ocean Sea: Grants 1 caravel & 400w (no changes)
*The Adventurer: Grants 7 longbowmen / 6 halbs / 17 strelets / 9 xbows (changed from: 7 longbowmen / 5 halbs / 17 strelets / 8 xbows)
*The Sergeant at Arms: Grants 4 doppelsoldners / 8 pikes (changed from 3 doppelsoldners / 8 pikes)
*The Marksman: Grants 6 skirms / 4 abus / 6 cassadores (no changes)
*The Scout: Grants 4 hussars / 5 cossacks (no changes)
Colonial Age Politician Changes:
*Existing Colonial Age Politician adjustments: https://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=16071
New Adjusted Euro Fortress Age Politician Changes:
*General changes: 'Slow age' times changed to 100s (down from 110s)
*The Exiled Prince: 'Fast' Age' up time changed to 50s (up from 40s)
*Mohawk Statesman: Grants 7 Native Iroquois Tomahawks (changed from 3 manlets & 2 native scouts or something)
*The Gentlemen Pirate: Grants 1 privateer & 3 barbary corsairs (changed from 1 privateer & 2 barbary corsairs)
*The Admiral of the Ocean Sea: Grants 1 caravel & 400w (no changes)
*The Adventurer: Grants 7 longbowmen / 6 halbs / 17 strelets / 9 xbows (changed from: 7 longbowmen / 5 halbs / 17 strelets / 8 xbows)
*The Sergeant at Arms: Grants 4 doppelsoldners / 8 pikes (changed from 3 doppelsoldners / 8 pikes)
*The Marksman: Grants 6 skirms / 4 abus / 6 cassadores (no changes)
*The Scout: Grants 4 hussars / 5 cossacks (no changes)
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
A good move in the right direction for slow age up politicians. I really think the new politicians should be implenented in the EP.
Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Ooh native tomos for the politicians. Those things are so abuseable lol
Looking forward to the smackdown as always! Would you ever consider having a smackdown for lower level players? Eg. Pr20-24?
Looking forward to the smackdown as always! Would you ever consider having a smackdown for lower level players? Eg. Pr20-24?
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Yeah, they're the ones you'd normally get from a treasure with a ranged melee damage. And they take up 0 pop
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
dansil92 wrote:Ooh native tomos for the politicians. Those things are so abuseable lol
Why? They're quite bad
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
4 abus seems a bit low to me compared to other military shipments. it's 900vs compared to 1100vs for 4 huss for instance or 1000vs for 6 skirm which are auto upgraded. 5 abus would be much closer to 4 huss in terms of vs, why not implementing that ?
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
5 abus seems way too strong thou, abus are worth more than their cost anyway
Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Kaiserklein wrote:dansil92 wrote:Ooh native tomos for the politicians. Those things are so abuseable lol
Why? They're quite bad
Meelee at range means they do far better against skirms and even artillery than they should. They arent fantastic but for 0 pop i wouldnt complain
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
[spoiler=Changed age 2 politicians]The Governor: outpost wagon + 200 gold
The Quartermaster: 400 wood
The Naturalist: 3 villagers + 4 cows
The Bishop: free shipment
The Philosopher Prince: age costs 700f, receive 400f when aged
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General: age-up time reduced from 110 to 100 seconds (for all politicians except The Exiled Prince).
The Quartermaster: 400 wood
The Naturalist: 3 villagers + 4 cows
The Bishop: free shipment
The Philosopher Prince: age costs 700f, receive 400f when aged
Civ | The Governor | The Quartermaster | The Naturalist | The Bishop | The Philosopher Prince |
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Brits | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Dutch | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | Yes |
French | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | Yes |
German | No | Yes | Yes, 1 settler wagon and 1 vill instead of 3 vills | Yes | Yes |
Portugese | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Russia | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Ottoman | Yes | Yes | Yes | No | Yes |
Spanish | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | Yes |
General: age-up time reduced from 110 to 100 seconds (for all politicians except The Exiled Prince).
Civs | The Admiral of the Ocean Sea | The Adventurer | The Exiled Prince | The Gentleman Pirate | The Marksman | The Mohawk Statesman | The Scout | The Sergeant at Arms |
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Brits | Caravel + 400w | 7 longbowmen | Privateer + 3 barbary corsairs | 7 Native Iroquois Tomahawks | ||||
Dutch | Caravel + 400w | Age up time reduced to 50s | Privateer + 3 barbary corsairs | 6 halberdiers | ||||
French | Age up time reduced to 50s | 6 skirmishers | 7 Native Iroquois Tomahawks | 4 hussars | ||||
Germany | Age up time reduced to 50s | Privateer + 3 barbary corsairs | 6 skirmishers | 4 doppelsoldners | ||||
Portugese | Caravel + 400w | Age up time reduced to 50s | 6 cassadors | 7 Native Iroquois Tomahawks | ||||
Russia | 17 strelets | Age up time reduced to 50s | Privateer + 3 barbary corsairs | 5 cossacks | ||||
Ottoman | Caravel + 400w | Age up time reduced to 50s | 4 abus guns | 4 hussars | ||||
Spanish | Caravel + 400w | 9 crossbowmen | 4 hussars | 8 pikemen |
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Made a table to easily compare politicians. Are you sure the 6 halbs for Dutch is The Adventurer and not The Sergeant at Arms? Currently can't check the game.
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
dansil92 wrote:Kaiserklein wrote:dansil92 wrote:Ooh native tomos for the politicians. Those things are so abuseable lol
Why? They're quite bad
Meelee at range means they do far better against skirms and even artillery than they should. They arent fantastic but for 0 pop i wouldnt complain
They have 8 range man, they shouldn't really be able to snipe artillery. And yeah they do melee damage but only 16 attack is mediocre so that doesn't really matter.
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
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Hazza54321 wrote:5 abus seems way too strong thou, abus are worth more than their cost anyway
I disagree. 4 abus is pretty shitty compared to 4 huss. I only use it when I know I need to defend vs musk or smg. Don't forget it's unit you will often never upgrade+I don't think they are worth more than their cost
Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
British and Spanish on top, TAD-civilizations on bottom. This is EP6 all over again.
Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Kaiserklein wrote:dansil92 wrote:Show hidden quotes
Meelee at range means they do far better against skirms and even artillery than they should. They arent fantastic but for 0 pop i wouldnt complain
They have 8 range man, they shouldn't really be able to snipe artillery. And yeah they do melee damage but only 16 attack is mediocre so that doesn't really matter.
No but if someone does a falc timing when you age, 7 tomos do more than half damage on a falc in 1 throw,. Once again they aren't great but i could see them being a lot more useful than the mantlets lol
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Yea I just wouldn't call them "abusable". Rather "half-decent in a few specific cases". Better than mantlets for sure but these were never used
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Tomahawks are basically just pikemen with a bit of range. This makes them a bit more versatile. Seems alright.
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
They deal 16 damage in melee though, while a pike deals 40. And they don't siege, and don't have cover mode I guess. And they're more expensive
Only thing is they have a multiplier vs cav at range
Only thing is they have a multiplier vs cav at range
LoOk_tOm wrote:I have something in particular against Kaisar (GERMANY NOOB mercenary LAMME FOREVER) And the other people (noobs) like suck kaiser ... just this ..
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Cool to see normal supremacy this time, that's much more interesting to me personally.
Also still seems a shame to me to have it on the interjection patch (a third separate form of age of empires 3) rather than on EP like other events. But obviously its interjections project and hes put the time and effort into so he can do what he wants with it. Its still clearly better than no event at all so I am looking forward to it.
Also still seems a shame to me to have it on the interjection patch (a third separate form of age of empires 3) rather than on EP like other events. But obviously its interjections project and hes put the time and effort into so he can do what he wants with it. Its still clearly better than no event at all so I am looking forward to it.
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Re: Smackdown #6 Normal Supremacy
Interjection wrote::flowers:
Thanks, you probably want to edit OP as well
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Re: Smackdown #7 Normal Supremacy
BUMP
Looking to schedule this match soon. I'm free tonight and all day Saturday to cast
Looking to schedule this match soon. I'm free tonight and all day Saturday to cast
Re: Smackdown #7 Normal Supremacy
How come no one ever seems very interested in playing these? Are people even aware there's a $50 prize for the winner of each smackdown?
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Re: Smackdown #7 Normal Supremacy
Me vs dongtay
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