All tad civs broken

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All tad civs broken

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Seriously man all tad civs feels so unbalanced. I am not saying this because i loose a lot against them but also i win alot when i play with them. It just feels a lot easier to win with them. You get more eco without doing any extra work for more eco. You get defeated by conposition which aremt supposed to beat you. For ex. Ashi nagi against skirm goon. They just avoid you all fight and win by a flank. People think otto and iro are unbalanced which they are on re but they got nerfed on ep but for tad civs they just feels so much stronger or maybe forgiving is the right word i should use here.
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ummm, no
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Actually, I believe most players would agree the TAD culture civs are the best-designed civs in the game.
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Best-designed civs might be an overstatement. I think (and I think most people would agree) that they are on average stronger than Euro civs, but there's plenty of counters to all of them.
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yeah wouldnt say they are "best"-designed civs. These civs added diversity to the already diverse game, something which always troubles us when balancing the game.
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No way !
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Tad civs have the most annoying design. Too many free res and vils are always safe, raiding is bad vs them. Map control doesnt mean all that much vs them because res last much longer. Playstyle is typically do one thing or strat that you feel is uncounterable by your opponent.
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Is their any place to see win loss% Of a civ on eso. That way it is objectively right if the civs are gay or not i bet they would be at very top apart from otto and iro.
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We need @Hazza54321 for a keynote address on "India is lame". It's urgent.
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Well they all scale really well and are pretty unique. So they can seem lame sometimes, though I really like them (tho india is a joke sometimes).
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Wait, tell me wdym when you say "X civ is gay"? How can a civ be gay? :hmm:
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Ashvin wrote:Wait, tell me wdym when you say "X civ is gay"? How can a civ be gay? :hmm:

They didn't turned out normal
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India xD
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yes, all tad lamers will say no
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Shikari wrote:Is their any place to see win loss% Of a civ on eso. That way it is objectively right if the civs are gay or not i bet they would be at very top apart from otto and iro.


Yes there is. http://aoe3.jpcommunity.com/rating2/stats?t=age3ySP1v1

These are the win rates of all civs for 1v1 games played on TAD.

India apparently overtook Iro with 56,28% to 56,25% objectively confirming its statistically proven gayness.
/sarcasm

Actually China Japan and India ll ahve over 50% while Brit, Port, Dutch, France and Spain all have around 45% or lower, so to nilla players i guess it can be frustrating to play vs TAD or TWC civs, but i believe those winrates are caused by lack of knowledge from those casual nilla players.
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Jerimuno wrote:
Shikari wrote:Is their any place to see win loss% Of a civ on eso. That way it is objectively right if the civs are gay or not i bet they would be at very top apart from otto and iro.


Yes there is. http://aoe3.jpcommunity.com/rating2/stats?t=age3ySP1v1

These are the win rates of all civs for 1v1 games played on TAD.

India apparently overtook Iro with 56,28% to 56,25% objectively confirming its statistically proven gayness.
/sarcasm

Actually China Japan and India ll ahve over 50% while Brit, Port, Dutch, France and Spain all have around 45% or lower, so to nilla players i guess it can be frustrating to play vs TAD or TWC civs, but i believe those winrates are caused by lack of knowledge from those casual nilla players.


What if someone compiled a cross civ table like this but for past esoc tourney. That would be objectively accurate right.
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No that wouldn't. Not enough games (some MUs have only been played once), and a big difference in skill.
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[Armag] diarouga wrote:No that wouldn't. Not enough games (some MUs have only been played once), and a big difference in skill.

Thats why i loved mono civ. Got to see mu you don't see often.
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IAmSoldieR wrote:Tad civs have the most annoying design. Too many free res and vils are always safe, raiding is bad vs them. Map control doesnt mean all that much vs them because res last much longer. Playstyle is typically do one thing or strat that you feel is uncounterable by your opponent.


I don't think its a bad thing that raiding is not as effective in TAD. The game is more fun when people are able to build up a strong civ before fighting. Raiding seems to be a little too luck oriented sometimes and can make you get lucky wins and unlucky losses if there is bad mine placement on RE

like...japan mirror is such a cool clean matchup of strategic/player ability.
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raiding isnt luck orientated at all, it means theres actually more fights on the map rather than 1 big fight most players z move into each other, theres countless games ive won by outmanoeuvring my opponent
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Jerimuno wrote:
Shikari wrote:Is their any place to see win loss% Of a civ on eso. That way it is objectively right if the civs are gay or not i bet they would be at very top apart from otto and iro.


Yes there is. http://aoe3.jpcommunity.com/rating2/stats?t=age3ySP1v1

These are the win rates of all civs for 1v1 games played on TAD.

India apparently overtook Iro with 56,28% to 56,25% objectively confirming its statistically proven gayness.
/sarcasm

Actually China Japan and India ll ahve over 50% while Brit, Port, Dutch, France and Spain all have around 45% or lower, so to nilla players i guess it can be frustrating to play vs TAD or TWC civs, but i believe those winrates are caused by lack of knowledge from those casual nilla players.

Those stats haven’t been updated since 2013, and the meta has changed a lot since then. I’m sure that the stats would be a bit different if it was more up to date.
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Agree with Hazza. On my pathetic level, each player/team mass an army and then z move at the middle of the map. Meanwhile 33% of our vills are idle.
Raiding is a skill that can turn games that seems lost.
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oh i thought those stats would update just like the ladder, hm okay
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i see you're keeping it 2005 by calling things you dont like "gay"

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