E3 2019

[Ting]

If it's RoN-style squads, then you can individually micro units. If it's CoH-style (very likely), that's another story...

It's Relic favorite trick unfortunately: squads - unable to click single units - with a retreat button and a cover system.

[Mosx]

Maybe it's make for bigger mass like 300, 400 units squads for reprocude realistic battle?

[fightinfrenchman]

Maybe it's make for bigger mass like 300, 400 units squads for reprocude realistic battle?

Just imagine, a box of 1000 oprichniks. They could burn through factories with ease

[Sargsyan]

F2p + transactions = shit game, who gives a flying fuck about how many are going to play when the game is gonna be trash

[kami_ryu]

Let's see what the game is like when it comes out, I guess. It's too early for me to grab a pitchfork

[Mr_Bramboy]

The biggest part of the SC2 playerbase is in the coop gamemode. That also explains why SC2's profit model has switched from selling the game to F2P microtransactions, specifically new leaders to use in coop. The best thing AoE4 can do to revitalize the RTS-scene is to include several coop modes, not just competitive gamemodes.

[Imperial Noob]

imagine the unholy offspring of AoE3 card system and microtransactions

[lemmings121]

If it's RoN-style squads, then you can individually micro units. If it's CoH-style (very likely), that's another story...

It's Relic favorite trick unfortunately: squads - unable to click single units - with a retreat button and a cover system.

Efectivelly eliminating everything we know as micro in a aoe game, in favor of only tatics/positioning.

thats so weird, i'm inclined to believe that job description shouldnt be taken literally. It makes no sence to have this change in aoe.

[Mosx]

I hope this game ll not become a battle similutaor in real time

[Mosx]

Maybe it's make for bigger mass like 300, 400 units squads for reprocude realistic battle?

Just imagine, a box of 1000 oprichniks. They could burn through factories with ease

And what if I can counter that with same amount of gendarme

[fightinfrenchman]

Maybe it's make for bigger mass like 300, 400 units squads for reprocude realistic battle?

Just imagine, a box of 1000 oprichniks. They could burn through factories with ease

And what if I can counter that with same amount of gendarme

Gendarmes won't be in the game since they're OP

[SoldieR]

The biggest part of the SC2 playerbase is in the coop gamemode. That also explains why SC2's profit model has switched from selling the game to F2P microtransactions, specifically new leaders to use in coop. The best thing AoE4 can do to revitalize the RTS-scene is to include several coop modes, not just competitive gamemodes.

Sounds like aoeo quests

[lemmings121]

The biggest part of the SC2 playerbase is in the coop gamemode. That also explains why SC2's profit model has switched from selling the game to F2P microtransactions, specifically new leaders to use in coop. The best thing AoE4 can do to revitalize the RTS-scene is to include several coop modes, not just competitive gamemodes.

Sounds like aoeo quests

They are indeed similar, even with some progression from grinding games, but on aoeo (afaik) in some quests you just need the better gear to be playable , in sc2 coop the 'mastery points' will help, but you can also just get gud and win with a low level hero.

[EAGLEMUT]

Okay, now for some actual fresh E3 news from an official source. AoE2:DE is coming, and with perhaps more changes than expected:
https://www.ageofempires.com/news/age-of-empires-ii-de-at-e3/

Attendees will be able to experience stunning 4K Ultra HD graphics, a new, fully remastered soundtrack, and 4 new civilizations during an on-hands demo of the game.

Could this mean new content will come with AoE3:DE as well?

[Sargsyan]

Well aoe2 has 4 civs right ? So i think its a good idea to add some new civs to the game, while aoe3 has alot of them so they better do something more valuable

[nimanoe]

Well aoe2 has 4 civs right ? So i think its a good idea to add some new civs to the game, while aoe3 has alot of them so they better do something more valuable

AoE2 has 31 civs already, so 35 with these 4 additional confirmed

[Sargsyan]

Lol really ?

[Imperial Noob]

I have nothing against 21 civs being added to AoE3

[SoldieR]

I actually hope no new aoe3 civs. They would prob be half assed and clunky.

They're making aoe2 a mess. You have aoe2 nilla, aoc expansion, then African expansion, aoe2 HD , and now aoe2 de lol wtf

[Mitoe]

Yeah. If there are new civs for AoE3 they need to be done well. For AoE2 it’s easier since all civs are very similar; all you need to do is copy paste and add a twist.

[Mitoe]

I actually hope no new aoe3 civs. They would prob be half assed and clunky.

They're making aoe2 a mess. You have aoe2 nilla, aoc expansion, then African expansion, aoe2 HD , and now aoe2 de lol wtf

Yeah they’re really milking AoE2 haha

[Imperial Noob]

For AoE2 it’s easier since all civs are very similar; all you need to do is copy paste and add a twist.

I wonder how civs being similar affects the human brain. Maybe Aoe2 players are addicted to more of the same, which means playing more the same old game and buying every iteration of it as if it was something brand new.

[Riotcoke]

I actually hope no new aoe3 civs. They would prob be half assed and clunky.

They're making aoe2 a mess. You have aoe2 nilla, aoc expansion, then African expansion, aoe2 HD , and now aoe2 de lol wtf

Milking and splitting the community at the same time.

[Vinyanyérë]

The GaaS model is kinda expected at this point; I think that it can be done in a quasi-ethical way. I'd go as far as to say that it's been so expected that a AAA multiplayer game will have some form of long-term monetization that there's not really any new information gained to learn that it will indeed have it. Plus, a lot of my friends are excited at the idea of some forms of microtransactions in various multiplayer games as a form of personal expression. A lot of my friends own the hot anime waifu skin of all their favorite League/HotS champions and can live with paying a premium to do so. Again, speaking for my friends here.

Squad-based gameplay isn't something that be surprised to see out of Relic. I'm not enthusiastic about it, although I did enjoy Company of Heroes and CoH2 and still play a few games of the latter sometimes. Squad-based gameplay plus a time period shift to WW1 or 2 era would make the game sound very similar to a hypothetical CoH3 though, which is something that I'd like to see but not necessarily something that I'd liked to see called AoE4.

Something that Relic did that I didn't like was locking certain factions behind a DLC paywall and then allowing players with these extra factions to play ladder games against players without them. That's become a popular monetization model due to League that doesn't work nearly as well in an RTS. One could imagine new civs being released every season that cost an additional 20 Microsoftbux each and that are conveniently (or even accidentally) tier 1 competitive civs.

[nimanoe]

They're making aoe2 a mess. You have aoe2 nilla, aoc expansion, then African expansion, aoe2 HD , and now aoe2 de lol wtf

Not entirely accurate, if you're talking about different balances then there are 3 options: Age of Kings, AoE2:The Conquerors and AoE2 with all expansions.
If you're talking about different platforms then there is Userpatch, AoE2:HD and AoE2:DE.
And if you're talking about all the different expansions then there's Age of Kings, The Conquerors, The Forgotten, African Kingdoms, Rise of the Rajas and the newly announced expansion.
These things still split up the community, but it's not split in as many ways as you describe.

I also have some hope that it will be possible to upgrade the HD version with some discount to the DE version, so that the split will remain as minimal as possible but we'll have to see.

Btw: not saying Microsoft hasn't milked AoE2 with the HD edition, because they have.