Question about invis units

[Zhanson10]

Often I’ll play as France, and I’ve been noticing something recently when I try to put my native scout in invisible mode. Most of the time there is no problem, however, every once in a while I’m unable to put the scout in invisible mode even though there are no enemy units around. This tends to happen when I play against pr 25 players who play like master sergeants and sometimes talk very suspiciously, which makes me wonder if they have invisible units all over the map preventing me from letting my unit go invisible and allowing them to see my every move. However, I’ve not actually seen these invis units. The maps I play on when this happens are RE maps. The maps don’t seem modified in any way. Has anyone ever encountered this issue? Does it suggest the use of maphacks?

[Mitoe]

Sounds like someone using moesbar cheats. Moesbar cheats use spyglass all over the map to emulate maphack, and spyglass counts as a unit, thereby preventing your scout from going stealth.

[Jaeger]

Sounds like someone using moesbar cheats. Moesbar cheats use spyglass all over the map to emulate maphack, and spyglass counts as a unit, thereby preventing your scout from going stealth.

Oh interesting, I never knew how does things worked. Does regular maphack work in a different way?

[Mitoe]

I believe so. I think it removes fog of war from the game or something? I don't really know how true maphack functions

[_H2O]

Regular map hack is a much more traditional approach than moesbar. It’s very different how it works.

[gibson]

Regular maphack uses a 3rd party program to show the map, I think that means you could still have an invisible unit. Moesbar ui actually gives you line of site of the whole map, which means you probably can't have an invisible unit. Or maybe its vice versa, not completely sure.

[EAGLEMUT]

3rd party program = no invisible units, hacks game memory
moesbar = invisible spyglass units all over the map
EP has protections against both.