6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

Mamaluke vs sphai

Poll ended at 07 Jul 2019, 13:55

Sphai
5
10%
Mamaluke
16
31%
Garja
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60%
 
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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HUMMAN wrote:Well considering people send mams (5 mams!) in age4 it is a very legit question. GG WP no re.

You should never send mams in age 4 if you can still send spahis lol. They auto upgrade in age 4.
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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yeah sometimes for a cheese I even FI, go age 4 with 3 spahis and time my age with 5 spahis to pop 8 guard spahis when I up (need to hope opponent will pressure the popping point)
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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Against many artillery and goon in age 4 as umueu say isn't better send mama then spahis? Spahis dies so fast
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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umeu wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:Mams compliment ottos units way better so id go with mams regardless


Nah, spahi are defo better in some cases. Especially now its 4 mams only. Spahi are better to send first right after aging to III, without infantry support. Spahi are better in IV. Spahi are better vs mass LI like garja said, but also vs cav. So vs russia or aztecs, i think spahi will usually get more done, at least when theyre age2.

But when you need to kill the others 2 falc shipment or there are dragoons on the field, then you mams are better.

vs your typical skirm goon u want mams as they can snare forever so ur vet jans can just get on top of him and your mum
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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spahi are better vs colonial civs probably
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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Hazza54321 wrote:spahi are better vs colonial civs probably

I would say can be better than mams vs civ with handcombat anticav like china/spain. Vs china I would go spahis over mams almost alwyas in fact.
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Hazza54321 wrote:
umeu wrote:
Hazza54321 wrote:Mams compliment ottos units way better so id go with mams regardless


Nah, spahi are defo better in some cases. Especially now its 4 mams only. Spahi are better to send first right after aging to III, without infantry support. Spahi are better in IV. Spahi are better vs mass LI like garja said, but also vs cav. So vs russia or aztecs, i think spahi will usually get more done, at least when theyre age2.

But when you need to kill the others 2 falc shipment or there are dragoons on the field, then you mams are better.

vs your typical skirm goon u want mams as they can snare forever so ur vet jans can just get on top of him and your mum


Yes, i agree, thats basically what i said.
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vs your typical skirm goon u want mams as they can snare forever so ur vet jans can just get on top of him and your mum


Yes, i agree, thats basically what i said.

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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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Sargsyan wrote:
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duckzilla wrote:Have to admit it makes me mad to see that this thread is about two units whose names both are written horribly wrong. Guess "Mamaluke" is still somehwat ok, but "Sphai" is a tough one...

ops sorry I can't change it atm

its ok bro, no one really bats an eye on it besides duckzilla. i didn't even notice it untill his post.

I did and wrote about it :geek:
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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What about adding a further technology to the Ottoman church card? It could be an age V tech costing 2k wood/2k coin which allows Ottomans to build Spahis in stable.

The change would boost the Ottoman church card (not very good currently?!), give Ottoman a bit more variety for treaty/late-game and would also prevent Spahis from becoming too overpowered through shadow teching.
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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I mean that is irrelevant for 1v1 and potentially stupid in Teamgames and Treaty considering they cost 280 food only, have better stats than cuirs, shadowtech and at least have cavcombat and riding school.

Also would be more of a thing for the treaty patch, not regular ep.
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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scarm wrote:I mean that is irrelevant for 1v1 and potentially stupid in Teamgames and Treaty considering they cost 280 food only, have better stats than cuirs, shadowtech and at least have cavcombat and riding school.

Changing the cost of Spahis should not be too difficult, shadowtech was already addressed, cuirs have more upgrade cards (cheaper/faster produced/combat) and France is an entirely different civ design anyway (better eco, (far) more pop space). Spahis would fit well to Ottoman pop heaviness (abus guns) leading to trade-off situations.
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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They are just designed to be a homecity exclusive unit. Thats why they have their stats in the first place. Also that change is just not gonna happen, because its again pretty irrelevant for supremacy.
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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You could just make them trainable at stable in age 3 lol
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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princeofcarthage wrote:You could just make them trainable at stable in age 3 lol

trainable spahis with 4 mameluke shipment, rip to the civs which play against otto.
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Re: 6 Sphai or 5 mamaluke

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_RDX_ wrote:
princeofcarthage wrote:You could just make them trainable at stable in age 3 lol

trainable spahis with 4 mameluke shipment, rip to the civs which play against otto.

You know we can try that, its not like otto has eco like france or brit to spam them. Play tonight at 12 India time?
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